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    Asuna Okawa
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    Additiona freel retainers

    Just throwing this out here. Currently the price of the retainers is 2€ or 2$ and the sub for a non legacy that still want the veteran rewards is 13-14 euro's. The two retainers you get originally in FFXIV wasn't even enough for the equipment and materials back then. Since we're now in 3.0 we definitely won't have enough room for anything at all.

    Let's get to the point. Since retainers are actually pretty pricy and the majority of the players aren't legacy members. The active legacy members might be less than 10% of the current subscribers. Considering those people will be paying 13 euro's or dollars each month for the game itself, they're also expected too pay 2bucks per retainer.

    This shouldn't even be allowed in a p2p game. Some people are literally paying up to 20bucks or more a month, just so they can play and keep all their equipment without selling/discarding anything. The one thing they could atleast do give two new retainers for each expansion released.

    like this:
    ARR = 2 retainers
    ARR/Heavensward = +2 retainers
    All 3 games = +2 retainers

    Meaning you get two extra retainers with every new expansion.


    I one of those people that's not willing too pay extra money for a p2p game, just so I can have the most optimal experience. The monthly fee should be enough and they should provide the ingame storage possibillities even if it's a long quest or a grind too unlock the next retainers.
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    I've talked to Yoshida about this last year at Tokyo Game Show and I made a post about it at one point, but I'll say it here too.

    Q. When can we have more inventory slots? (Such as larger retainers slots/more retainers)

    A. We are very limited in resources for data. Resources are mainly being used for other content. Also the more items that you carry/ the larger your storage becomes, the more strain it creates on the servers and resources, which could potentially lead to longer load times and heavier server loads.

    I am one for hoarding equipment in games, I like to collect them all. But if that means reducing core gameplay, then I wouldn't want that. The developers are working very hard to create a great game and I would rather they spend their resources on core content.

    Consider paying extra $$ extra to pay for their extra work to provide you special treatment and tipping them for their next big server upgrades. I'm sure one day when things become more stable, they will increase inventory slots.
    But then again, if that time comes, soon after that we will still ask for more slots. In a sense it's better this way right now.
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    Thandronen Ranguemont
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    We should've been given at least one free extra retainer with Heavensward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thandronen View Post
    We should've been given at least one free extra retainer with Heavensward.
    This.
    Although I would have been happy if they made it so we had to do a quest to get it honestly making it so you don't just get the extra retainer
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXRaineXx View Post
    I've talked to Yoshida about this last year at Tokyo Game Show and I made a post about it at one point, but I'll say it here too.
    Then he lied to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXRaineXx View Post
    We are very limited in resources for data. (PS3 Limitations?)

    Resources are mainly being used for other content. (which ones?)

    Also the more items that you carry/ the larger your storage becomes, the more strain it creates on the servers and resources, which could potentially lead to longer load times and heavier server loads. (Oh My god, just increase the storage capacity of the servers with our 2$ per month per rextra retainer and 25$ for Odin's horse!! Sell Carbuncle plushies again since they are out-of-stock, so you are making money already..)

    Consider paying extra $$ extra to pay for their extra work (i.e. Vacation time, pushing back patches) to provide you special treatment ("special treatment?" BS) and tipping them (I don't want to tip them, it's a business and they are not waiters, but developers.) for their next big server upgrades. (cough cough)

    I'm sure one day when things become more stable, they will increase inventory slots. (so far then, it means it's still unstable?)

    But then again, if that time comes (will it ever, after 2 years?), soon (Blizzard fav word) after that we will still ask for more slots. In a sense it's better this way right now. (is it really?)
    As you can see in bold, these are my reaction from all of this Bullcrap.

    I am paying for retainers because that's the only way they enforce it. You pay for extra inventory slots, which they swear they have no more room for it. Else it would be unstable. But they still managed to increase the inventory through these paying retainers. See the catch?

    They just are greedy as every other business. And as such, I'll consider them not my friends that they want us to have a good time, but for them to make sure Square Enix is in good $$ Shape.

    We all know they can do better.

    And yes, one Free retainer per Expansion should be a minimum.

    Yoshi-P is a PR. He's doing his job. The rest is just shareholders that wants more with the least investment, as with any other companies, big or small. I am not getting fooled.
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    Last edited by KingOfAbyss; 09-22-2015 at 12:32 AM.

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    I used to be OK with inventory space hoarding everything.
    But then I started playing DRG, and BTN and suddenly all went to hell. My both retainers filled up instantly, and so did my own inventory.

    Well I just said F it, and I instantly sell everything that has a market board value over 100, outside of Dyes and Glam Prisms, and toss the stuff that has no value or is untradeable.
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    This argument falls apart here is why, if EVERYONE paid for MAX retainers we could break everything. OR they would need to say... sorry MAX retainers on server XXXXXXX is reached sorry to all our other paying customers.


    My wife is a fisher.. and her fishing bait and lures takes up 20ish slops 100% of the time because we will be out doing something and then I get up to go get a drink. and she stops and fishes for 4-5 mins.
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    Last edited by CrystalRainbow; 09-22-2015 at 12:36 AM.

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    I'd like to see them adding an additional free retainer based on either the number of expansions, or the number of city states. We had 2 retainers for 3 city states, now we have 4 city states, I feel like we need an additional retainer to cover that additional scope.

    Quite apart from that, in ARR we started with 2 retainers for 20 DoW/DoM/DoL/DoH jobs. The system was designed around/balanced for that many jobs space requirement. Since then we've had 1 new class and 4 new jobs added to the game - with all their gear, plus the new battle gear; along with a huge number of new items and crafting recipes and new crafting systems. They talked about the expansion adding a whole game's worth of content, and yet we did not gain any additional storage space as standard within the game.

    I think it's fair to ask for an additional free retainer as standard for all players that reach Ishgard. I think it's fair in future to request either an additional standard, free, retainer be added with each expansion since the expansion brings expanded need for storage. Or ask for an additional retainer to be added with each new city state added to the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfAbyss View Post
    As you can see in bold, these are my reaction from all of this Bullcrap.
    The number of retainers has NOTHING to do with "PS3" or any "limitations" you or anyone else imagines it creates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    The number of retainers has NOTHING to do with "PS3" or any "limitations" you or anyone else imagines it creates.
    Lol you can't read between lines, can't you?

    Those were sarcastic remarks; the fact that they say whatever they want to sleep the masses.

    Look here: "Also the more items that you carry/ the larger your storage becomes, the more strain it creates on the servers and resources, which could potentially lead to longer load times and heavier server loads."

    With that statement only, they shouldn't even have offered paying retainers and kept it a 2 Max per character, as this puts more strain on the servers. But hey, they are making money out of it, who cares about instability?
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    Last edited by KingOfAbyss; 09-22-2015 at 01:25 AM.

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