Scholar possible buffs

[Maow]

I'm curious, just how does a WHM do 20K Cure II's? Take into account you're trying to compare this to the reliability of Crit Adlo and your implication is that WHMs can reliably do a 20K Cure II, thus negating the need for a Crit Adlo.

Also, is there ever a scenario where you actually NEED a 20K Cure II in the current Meta? @____@

working on getting a video up for that :>

[Ghishlain]

working on getting a video up for that :>

Make sure that's 20K without a Crit. Once you show a Crit, SCH under the exact same circumstances will destroy that Cure II in eHP thanks to the Crit Bonus on Adlo.

[Muahbec]

Lustrate, on the other hand, is underwhelming in comparison to what it used to be and what it COULD be, hence why I suggested a possible buff for it.

But we are the only healers who can instantly heal a target with a 600potency heal 3 times in a row every 60 seconds + fairy's free 300pot heal.....
I can't see where a buffed lustrate would be fully useful, we almost never have to use more than 1 lustrate to bring people back up... and if we need we can instantly use another AND another.
The other healers can cast their instant heals once, wait for the long long cooldown and manage to keep the target alive with Cure/Benefic 1 and 2 and prays
We can cast three in a row and if aetherflow is off cooldown? We can cast SIX in a row...

[Maow]

I'm sure we both know that casting lustrate 6 times in a row would be extremely unefficient. That's the thing, though. As it stands lustrate is pretty weak. My scholar is ilvl 193, and my lustrates do about 4.3k heals. In my opinion, for the skill that should be your "strong clutch heal" it could do a lot more. Do read my suggestions on lustrate and tell me how you feel about that.

The main thing would be how lustrate is very weak in comparison to how it COULD be if said buffs were applied. (as simple as healing buffs applying to lustrate)

But we are the only healers who can instantly heal a target with a 600potency heal 3 times in a row every 60 seconds.....

Do note that since Lustrate is considered an "ability" none of your healing buffs will apply to it, hence why I think it's underpowered. (it has a lower potency than cure 2 / benefic 2 and said healing buffs don't apply to it)

[Sidra]

Physick and Embrace mean that Scholars generally have a base Cure II heal with a CureI mp cost, as opposed to the other healers who use standardly Cure I and then CureII for catch-up or burst. Incidentally, that also means higher HP upkeep on the tank which means catch up is required less often. 3x Lustrates pretty much never happens, but when you talk about just using 1-2 interspersed with your normal heals and fairy, it's burst single target is very strong. When you take MP use and DPS capabilities into account, SCH is the best healer and I don't think it is particularly close.

Individually, you can nitpick on some skills if you want. But as a whole the job is very strong, so trying to improve on skills even though you might feel like the skill is lacking is prolly not going to get much agreement within the community.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Do note that since Lustrate is considered an "ability" none of your healing buffs will apply to it, hence why I think it's underpowered. (it has a lower potency than cure 2 / benefic 2 and said healing buffs don't apply to it)

You also need to note the other aspects;
Incoming Healing reduction debuffs don't affect it either (infirmity)
With the change, lustrate's a ton better on non-warrior targets. Especially on dps and healer targets
Other healers have essential dignity, tetragrammaton and benediction. Essential dignity has the potential to be stronger, but also weaker and limited to one use/40 seconds. Tetragrammaton has 700 potency, I think, but limited by a 60s CD. Lustrate? If you blow all 3 stacks on it, it has a combined potency of 1800 for the same CD time

[Cynfael]

I'm a little flabbergasted at this thread.

Thankfully others have already put in the work to explain why SCH isn't in need of buffs, because I don't think I have the energy tonight to explain how water is wet.

If you consider nothing else, think about how Dissipation being crap for its intended purpose (emergency healing) doesn't make a dent in the overall power and utility of the SCH kit. Everything else is just that good.

[FridgePanic]

I want whatever OP is smoking.

[Aomine1992]

I think that with ppl who play either class of Arcanist tend to forget to factor their pet into certain actions hence when ppl complained about SMNs dps in 2.0 but not factoring in the 20-30% contribution from the pet...

Now with scholars you have to factor in that the pets are healing too and can be boosted as well, if SCH gets buffed there would be no point to bringing other healers anywhere..

[Rawrz]

Some things to note, fairy healing is about 200 potency not 300. Their healing is not based on the same potency as ours.

Also, a comparison of the new Lustrate vs Old. (It's amazing like it is I promise)

This change was overall better for Pld/drk (~5%less on War) and always better for all tanks when it crits."

PLD Tank has 15k health
War has 15k base (18.5k with defiance)

Old Lustrate (25%)
PLD Tank is healed 3750.
War in defiance is healed 4688.

New Lustrate. (600 potency)
PLD Tank is healed 4400
War in Defiance is also healed 4400.

New Lustrate. (600 potency+crit)
CRITICAL! PLD Tank is healed 6600.
CRITICAL! War in Defiance is also healed 6600.
Old vs New Lustrate
PLD Net gain:+15%.
War in Defiance:~-7%.

Old vs Crit Lustrate:
PLD Net gain:+~43%.
War in Defiance:~+29%.

Would I like to see Dissipation changed? Yes. Shortening its duration and cd would be enough for me.

Selene could bring some more offensive utility over her gimp silence... but as a whole SCH is a very solid and fluid class.