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  1. #71
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    just give everyone the possibility to change server for free for 2 weeks, done.
    not like this is the first time we had such a scenario.
    good grief SE, money money money
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    I think EU players should be allowed to transfer for free, but Square Enix has to make sure that they dont flock over to the most populated server.
    Most populated, or at least most locked, is Balmung, which anyone on Chaos datacentre can now transfer to for free, making it even more oversubscribed. Free transfers to Chaos would even that out.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    There are many posts in this thread explaining why people didn't see any reason to just randomly move to another server just because "EU" labels were added to them.
    Well i guess people need to grow a brain then when it was said in the announcements "We recommend you choose a Server in your region" and what EU means - pretty strange that Chaos has always consisted of EU Servers only isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Piscodaemon View Post
    1. We never chose the wrong server. We joined one of the old Five servers they were all labeled as NA/EU (posted the pic before- but here its again incase you missed it http://i.imgur.com/FqIMl3S.jpg) it was on 2.0 launch that it was made into NA only.

    2. Asking for equal treatment is not a double standard.

    3. If you don't like reading complaints, you aren't affected by this, why are you even commenting?

    4. If this was the other way around, EU getting free transfer but NA paying for it, all who are against it now would rage about it being unfair, and that's why all of you are double-standard.
    • Wrong - Servers were listed EU or NA in Open Beta in the Server List when you logged in - get your facts right: Only the Datacenters where marked as NA/EU where you clicked on - i don't give a damn about your World Transfer Screenshots that you post again and again - you could've looked up how Servers where labled before you choose one
    • Equal Treatment would mean that you actually need to be treated equally. You choose to have a bad connection once you choose a NA Server and not a EU one - your connection is not getting worse when the move happens - NA players connections that are on EU Servers will - so they get a special treatment. You don't because nothing changes for you, except for your desire to play on a server with less ping - but that's not SE's problem
    • I don't care about your complaints - i just can't stand people crying over entitlement when it was obvious since the last beta which Server belonged to which territory
    • No - i wouldn't rage against it. Because nothing would change for me. If i play with 50-75ms or 25ms doesnt do shit in a MMO for me, get your T3 routing straight im sitting in the middle of Europe too

    And now get over it - SE either will or won't allow Free Transfers ON the Chaos Data Center - my bet is they won't so they don't overload the, mostly already strained, servers (Especially Balmung - poor fellows can't even get in their workshops because the server has no free instances in the evening)
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrella View Post
    (Especially Balmung - poor fellows can't even get in their workshops because the server has no free instances in the evening)
    This being on Aether datacentre where the NA population of Chaos can now transfer to with no restrictions.

    Equal treatment would mean NA players shouldn't get a free transfer. To use your logic "You chose to have a bad connection once you chose a NA server and not an EU one' didn't the NA players choose to have a bad connection when they chose an EU server?

    The doublethink is strong in this one.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrella View Post
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    See you can’t really make a good argument, you said you saw the pic of world transfer yet still saying same thing over and over. For your information by the time servers were changed into EU or NA it was too late the world transfer has ended before the start of open beta which was phase 4, you even acknowledged it yourself.

    And yes NA picking EU servers and EU picking NA server should be treated equally they both did the same thing and If we are talking about me then yes when I picked the server it had EU next to it, but in your case you are only looking at it in a one sided perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrella View Post
    Well i guess people need to grow a brain.
    Just because people do not agree with you does not mean they are stupid, what a logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrella View Post
    And now get over it - SE either will or won't allow Free Transfers ON the Chaos Data Center - my bet is they won't so they don't overload the, mostly already strained, servers (Especially Balmung)
    Balmung is NA server and with no free transfer from NA to EU server it will be overloaded even more with people from chaos moving in.

    Anyway I have voiced my opinion, talking to you won’t benefit me anyway and it’s like talking to a brick wall, also here is the pic in case you missed it for a 3rd time >> http://i.imgur.com/FqIMl3S.jpg :P
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  6. #76
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    Why not instead of letting people picking from a list of all servers for Na to Eu make a transfer that just says To ( Blank Eu server) where its one option for every Eu server, or just a list of only Eu servers? it cant be that hard, can it?
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  7. #77
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    I am in complete agreement with practically everyone here.

    I'm on Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh is always full. We have players on Gilgamesh who perform very poorly due to EU lag. Parties get mad and quit. Player gets frustrated. Party gets frustrated. It's better that these players get to enjoy the game for what it's really worth, and transfer for free due to the hassle and frustration over a span of 2 years.

    Plus, you could make more room on the NA servers after they transfer so that people from Chaos server can join us and replenish the losses.

    I completely understand this is a business arrangement which requires funding, but wouldn't the net profits of new subscriptions make a long-term investment become a long-term profit?
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    Most populated, or at least most locked, is Balmung, which anyone on Chaos datacentre can now transfer to for free, making it even more oversubscribed. Free transfers to Chaos would even that out.
    I haven't seen Balmung unlock in a very long time(a friend plays on that world and wanted me to join her), I have my doubts we will see it unlock during the free transfer.
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    Last edited by Wildsprite; 09-20-2015 at 07:21 PM.

  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerinn View Post
    I think it is great they are allowing free transfers off of the EU data center because of the server move - kudos to SE.
    I have a question for you all - did you ignore the "Recommended for EU players" when you picked a world? Is the Chaos data center a more recent development or has it been sectioned off as the EU data center since 2.0 launch? Just curious as I'm not sure this is "unfair" if you knowingly were not playing in the EU data center - not to say they shouldn't allow free transfers from NA>EU.
    Simple, EU servers were not available to create a character when the game was release (full), so ppl had to go to other data center to be able to play
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    Simple, EU servers were not available to create a character when the game was release (full), so ppl had to go to other data center to be able to play
    it was either this or wait a while and let's face it, if you buy a game and pay your sub you don't want to wait any longer than you have to.
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