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    Syzygian's Avatar
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    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Here is an OT rotation that I've found very effective:

    -pre-cast DA
    -Salted Earth
    -Plunge
    Scourge
    -Carve
    Hard Slash
    -Low Blow **
    -Dark Passenger **
    Syphon Strike
    -DA
    Souleater
    -Blood Weapon ***
    Hard Slash
    Syphon Strike
    Delirium

    **you should be able to weave two oGCDs very easily as long as neither of them are Plunge, which has an animation that can't be clipped by other skills.
    ***this is popped here since a decent hole has been made in your MP at this point, as opposed to popping at full MP and wasting the returns.


    From here you alternate between Delirium and DA Souleater. Yes you can DA every single one when rotating like this. Use all other abilities on cooldown, including Dark Passenger (yes you'll have the MP for it). Regardless of the attack speed increase of Blood Weapon, every other Delirium, you'll reapply Scourge, and every other Scourge, you'll weave in DA Carve.

    So not factoring in off-GCD abilities not named Carve and Spit, the rotation looks like this:
    Scourge-DA Carve-DA Souleater-Delirium-DA Souleater-Delirium-Scourge-DA Souleater-Delirium-DA Souleater-Delirium--->repeat
    -off-GCD cooldowns allowing, you'll pre-cast DA before the Hard Slash leading into Souleater, and pre-cast it either before or after the Delirium immediately before Carve comes off CD.

    This rotation bursts to 1.4-1.5K and settles at about 900 and some change with full uptime at about 910 STR, 550 crit, 550 SS, and 250 det. You will TP-floor before you MP floor with 100% uptime, even with DAing every SE and Carve, and Delirium and Scourge will have 100% uptime (Scourge can sometimes fall off if you have a minimum of BW uptime between applications, but it should only be for about 1 second maximum).

    As an MT, you can follow a very similar rotation, however, you'll likely have to use an extra Delirium combo if the boss isn't hitting you enough. Blood Price returns 115 more MP than Blood Weapon per trigger to try and mitigate this discrepancy but it often isn't enough.
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    Last edited by Syzygian; 09-20-2015 at 02:08 AM.

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    Ladon's Avatar
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    Resa Nome
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Here is an OT rotation that I've found very effective:

    -pre-cast DA
    -Salted Earth
    -Plunge
    Scourge
    -Carve
    Hard Slash
    -Low Blow **
    -Dark Passenger **
    Syphon Strike
    -DA
    Souleater
    -Blood Weapon ***
    Hard Slash
    Syphon Strike
    Delirium
    This is way too late for Blood Weapon. Something like this would be more effective:

    -pre-cast DA
    -Salted Earth
    -Plunge
    Scourge
    -Carve
    Hard Slash
    -Dark Passenger
    -Blood Weapon
    Syphon Strike
    -DA
    -Low Blow
    Souleater

    This will give you more mana with Syphon Stirke after using Dark Passenger so you won't top yourself out, and then you will also get blood weapon mana back from the Low Blow after DA.

    Even then, in most fight I will use Blood Weapon before the first plunge because you still will not cap yourself on mana after pre-casting DA and you get 238 manax3 back from Plunge, Scourge and C&S and I have been finding by doing this, later Blood Weapon use aligns much better with the OGCs coming off of cooldown to be used with Blood Weapon up.
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    Last edited by Ladon; 09-20-2015 at 05:03 AM.

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    Freyja Redgold
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ladon View Post
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    ^ this. I use this exact opener when OTing and it's the best I got so far.
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    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ladon View Post
    This is way too late for Blood Weapon.
    Perhaps. But the point is you still get the same degree of uptime and still maintain sufficient mana to TP floor long before you mana-floor, while DAing everything you need/want to DA, casting DP on CD and keeping full uptime on Scourge/Delirium which was my main point. Its actually a pretty minor difference as BW's main DPS value is the MP returns to sustain continued DA SE/Carve usage more than the attack speed increase, which is a pittance compared to the DPS cooldowns of other tanks. I'll test this though and see if there's a noticeable difference.
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