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    Docfiord_Fowling's Avatar
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    Docfiord Fowling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daerthalus View Post
    As for Skill Speed I was not suggesting it was a useful stat. I was simply saying that every tick you are losing MP, so the slower you swing the worse the overall MP drain is. Obviously if you optimize MP regen via Skill Speed you run into worse TP drain issues.

    I see what you are saying. Your argument for Skill Speed is to increase the ratio of GCDs to ticks so that it appears your time is used fitting in as many GCDs in as few MP ticks as possible. It is still a placebo effect. Until we know more about the DPS increase from the changes made to Skills Speed, it should only be used in two scenarios.
    1. If you have a hard cap to meet to fit in an extra GCD (Berserk, Blood for Blood, Trick Attack).
    2. If TP is not a concern.

    SS results in a direct DPS increase; more moves, more damage. By my calculations, DRK is the worst job for TP management at the moment.
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    Torian Whyte
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    Rogue Lv 60
    Dark Passenger worth using or too big of an MP drain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arasiel View Post
    Dark Passenger worth using or too big of an MP drain?
    Dark Passenger is always a DPS gain when there are two or more adds and should be used whenever it is up regardless if it has Dark Arts on it or not.

    Dark Passenger - Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 150 to all enemies in a straight line before you. Can only be used when succumbing to the Darkside. Dark Arts Potency: 250. Dark Arts Effect: Blind Duration: 15s.
    150 pot x 2 enemies = 300 potency off GCD
    250 pot x 2 enemies = 500 potency off GCD
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    Lawson Grey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docfiord_Fowling View Post
    Dark Passenger is always a DPS gain when there are two or more adds and should be used whenever it is up regardless if it has Dark Arts on it or not.
    Isn't it always a DPS gain even with one target? It's an instant ability and can be squeezed inbetween GCDs, much like you should be doing with Carve & Spit, Plunge, Reprisal when it procs, and Mercy Stroke when available.
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawson_Grey View Post
    Isn't it always a DPS gain even with one target? It's an instant ability and can be squeezed inbetween GCDs, much like you should be doing with Carve & Spit, Plunge, Reprisal when it procs, and Mercy Stroke when available.
    The DRG is strong in this one.

    I've been testing some Darkside-toggling rotations to see how possible it is to DA every C&S (60 sec), DA SE with every other DP (30 sec,), and DA as many Souleaters in-between(no CnS/DP available).

    Also have to factor the DoT snapshot aspect. 30 second duration for Scourge (our highest WS).. 45 second recast for Salted Earth..

    I stopped testing after the regen/degen bug, look forward to getting back to it Monday.

    Back in the LLs before 3.0 they described DRK as having to know when to Darkside.. so far all that's been said is 'just maintain 100%,' I'm eager to see where the sweet spot actually is
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 07-04-2015 at 05:55 PM.

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    Sol Darkwater
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    Miner Lv 60
    Dark Passenger eats mana.

    If mana isnt an issue---sure go nuts! Its OGCD

    In most other cases, newp. Better to use it on enhancing another ability (another dark arts for instance). On the reverse, if its 2+ enemies, then id instead use it even at its base potency over a dark arted ability (100 potency * 2 targets vs say, soul eater going from 280 to 400 on one).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faytte View Post
    Dark Passenger eats mana.

    If mana isnt an issue---sure go nuts! Its OGCD

    In most other cases, newp. Better to use it on enhancing another ability (another dark arts for instance). On the reverse, if its 2+ enemies, then id instead use it even at its base potency over a dark arted ability (100 potency * 2 targets vs say, soul eater going from 280 to 400 on one).
    Dark Passenger (no Dark Arts) is a gain of 150 potency on a single target for half the mp of Dark Arts Souleater (which only gains 120 potency over Delirium). If main tanking and you really want the HP restore then fine, but Dark Passenger even on single target is better than the enhanced Souleater for damage/MP efficiency.
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    Evermax Darkshade
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    Thank you for this nice post!
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Where do you put all your bonus stats? Strength?

    Nice guide btw.
    Would be nice if it had Cross class in the OP, but I found it within the thread anyway.
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