November? really?

[Azper]

First of all, it's okay for people to be disappointed in the current state of the game and the proposed future content or release timeline.

Second, there's a big difference between having content to do and having content people want to do. You can try to sell people on any aspect of the game, but whether or not they ultimately find it appealing and worthwhile is an entirely different story.

It's important for the developers to get feedback from the players, which is what these forums are designed to do. It's okay to disagree, but let's not start trying to invalidate other peoples' views simply because you don't agree with them. They have as much right to be heard as you do.

[Loony_BoB]

It's important for the developers to get feedback from the players, which is what these forums are designed to do. It's okay to disagree, but let's not start trying to invalidate other peoples' views simply because you don't agree with them. They have as much right to be heard as you do.

Completely agree, but that's the same reason we have a right to debate it. I think everyone's being really polite and civil towards each other in this thread, even when disagreeing, and it's really nice.

[Azper]

Completely agree, but that's the same reason we have a right to debate it. I think everyone's being really polite and civil towards each other in this thread, even when disagreeing, and it's really nice.

Maybe you don't realize how you and your attitude come across. Telling people their expectations are unrealistic and that they need a reality check hardly seems polite or civil. Maybe that's just me, though.

[rainichan]

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That's all fine and good, but to say that the devs shouldn't have like 3-5 days off as a "vacation" after a near 2 year grind with probably 1 day off every week or so - if that - because they want their shiny new content NOW NOW NOW? Is Not Okay in any context. They're likely close to a schedule that mangaka work on: 18-21 hours of your day is dedicated to storyboarding and drawing, and you get the 3-6 hours not taken up by that to eat/sleep. They might not be as hardcore as that, but they're likely close. So no, they had a well-deserved vacation, heaven forbid it delays the next patch some.

Editing to add: basic economics here: yeah, FFXIV might generate decent sales numbers, but the money generated from subscribers/cash shop does NOT just stay within the FFXIV dev team, it goes to the parent company as a whole. They get a budget they're allowed to work with, and it's the parent company that approves more money usage. If they don't approve it, or only approve part of what they ask for, IT IS NOT THE DEVS FAULT.

[Azper]

That's all fine and good, but to say that the devs shouldn't have like 3-5 days off as a "vacation" after a near 2 year grind with probably 1 day off every week or so - if that - because they want their shiny new content NOW NOW NOW? Is Not Okay in any context. So no, they had a well-deserved vacation, heaven forbid it delays the next patch some.

No one said they didn't deserve a vacation. People expressed boredom with current content offering and disappointment in having to wait until November for the next patch. That's all. I agree with both sides. I'm happy they got a much needed and well-deserved break, but at the same time I'm not giddy with excitement at running Neverreap and Fractal Continuum for another 6-8 weeks.