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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    allowing people to queue for leveling while in a party has great potential for abuse. everyday pickin up some low level around lvl 25, hoping to get ifrit normal for a quick 400k exp. bypassing any chance at some of the longer dungeons like stone vigil or aurum vale.
    but as my previous statement goes in reference to those of you who claim to be queueing as a tank with a friend, or with a friend who is a tank supposedly helping populate these 'rare' roles into lower level duties; you have a fast queue using one of these roles and unless you get the rare instance where ifrit or titan pop up, barely gain much more exp from the bonus than if you had just queued for a dungeon specific to your level.
    So you're saying you want to keep the population of low level tanks/heals as low as possible, because they can spam their max-level content. Your idea doesn't help anyone out, and as a matter of fact, is counter-productive to your own wishes.


    Yes, I understand that the EXP from low level roulette is roughly the same as doing an on-level dungoun. But sometimes a change of pace is nice, even if it's Tam Tara 1-2 revolution, it's better than spamming the library 10+ times in a row to gain a level. And if it helps out lower-level players with faster que's and completing their content? why would you be against it?


    Your afraid of outliers who would basically abuse it to do things like Ifrit HM like you suggested. But there's already ways to do that (have one person que D for Ifrit, wait for it to start popualting, have your freinds que lowlevel) - it's not like these outliers will suddenly become the norm.

    Trying to stagnate a system because of the worst possible scenarios is silly and only a method of self-inflictment. Let people play together, as others have said, in an MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
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    you realize as dps for leveling roulette my average queue time is only about 5 minutes? and what are 'my' wishes exactly as i dont recall making any. also just because someone does not agree with you does not make their reasoning "silly"
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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    you realize as dps for leveling roulette my average queue time is only about 5 minutes? and what are 'my' wishes exactly as i dont recall making any. also just because someone does not agree with you does not make their reasoning "silly"
    It is silly in my eyes, because it is simply a method of trying to punish everyone possible to ensure no abuse happens. It's like companies that constantly punish the paying costumers because of pirates (Silly), or how about companies trying to insensitize pre-orders before the game is even announced (Looking at you, hunted.)

    There are things that fly in the face of logic that make no sense to me.


    Now, as for your mention of que times:
    I que'd as 50+ DPS and it took about a 5-20 minute wait. This is obviously depending on the day, the hour, etc. etc. So, I guess I can't really contest this very well - it's a point of perspective and if you're fortunate enough that your low level que's are always at 5minutes, that's fantastic for you. But I am going to ask you to think of those who have longer than 5 minute ques.

    In my eyes, your wishes are merely to keep the que's the same because you do not see issues in them and they do not affect you at all (For whatever reason, you have short que's, which is fantastic) and you're afraid of abuse. As I said, it's counter-productive to these two (Apparant) wishes that you have because it only A) Limits the number of players entering low level que and B) Anyone who wants to abuse, is already doing exactly what you're afraid of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    But I am going to ask you to think of those who have longer than 5 minute ques.
    as you should as well when you fill these spots with a premade.
    the only way i would even agree with queueing premade is to reduce the bonus starting at 50%, and in increments of 20% more reduction with a 3rd or 4th person. thus giving more incentive to do leveling roulette as originally designed

    edit: when i do my roulettes and decide to go as a dps, my only long queue time is for high level. coincidentally this is the only roulette people can queue premade
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    Last edited by Kolaina; 09-18-2015 at 08:04 PM.

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    I'd like to see this. I don't usually bother with leveling roulette except for the bonus as my healer, and end up going into specific dungeons with fc mates to level/help each other.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    as you should as well when you fill these spots with a premade.
    the only way i would even agree with queueing premade is to reduce the bonus starting at 50%, and in increments of 20% more reduction with a 3rd or 4th person. thus giving more incentive to do leveling roulette as originally designed

    edit: when i do my roulettes and decide to go as a dps, my only long queue time is for high level. coincidentally this is the only roulette people can queue premade
    High level also takes more effort to unlock than leveling. I've been 60 for weeks and just unlocked high lvl roulette 2 days ago. Haven't actually queued up for it yet.

    You can also queue premade for ex roulette. I don't think I've ever waited more than 5 min as any role for that except at very odd times of day.
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