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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkB View Post
    I just want to add something, most people think the game "succeed", but in reality it didnt. Yes it made some money for SE, but SE business forces you to sub. Now i'm not denying it had some good subs, even milions, but the truth is, this game is a fast burning candle, and in my opinion any serious developer would avoid taking that path, i see less and less players playing, and dont be fooled by SE market claims, they will never share the actual amount of playing customers.
    You'd want to keep a good income, people been telling them since day 1, i'm afraid if they dont start listening, at first sign of another good mmo, this game will be desert, we are past a point of no return.
    its true, the only way they listen is when no one plays...see: 1.0. I am starting to wonder if that is what it will take for them to make a change again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    its true, the only way they listen is when no one plays...see: 1.0. I am starting to wonder if that is what it will take for them to make a change again
    Not only do I doubt the NA team actually delivering these posts, even if they did, yoshi won't be there to read it. He's too busy having paid for vacations disguised as PR. From gamescom, to E3, to Pax, to China, to Korea, to TGS in the span of 3 months. Then again, as a PR it just seems too much for an mmo. Not even blizzard did this many with one person at the helm enjoying all that travelling (I only saw metzen on blizzcon streams but correct me here).

    You know how you used and maybe still do watch the liveletters and what not and noticed how sometimes yoshi doesn't even know what his team is doing or what's being put into the game? He's the head director and producer too..Makes you wonder if he's really just all PR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    You know how you used and maybe still do watch the liveletters and what not and noticed how sometimes yoshi doesn't even know what his team is doing or what's being put into the game? He's the head director and producer too..Makes you wonder if he's really just all PR.
    Can you give an example of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    Can you give an example of this?
    There's like 50+ 1 hour long live letters to scour. That's probably 50 hours too long for me to look through. One example though, I think was him showing a gearset (on one character on a sheet of paper) and talking about it and genuinely asking someone from out of camera where this piece drops from. I can't remember what the gearset was because I generally don't pay much attention to those since my streaming quality is low and just pay attention to the google docs more (go ask my fc lead on steam, you have him on your list). Now, for someone who doesn't seem to program, to compose, to model, draw for his game and just 'directs' I was hoping he'd know about what gets put into his game.

    Also I think he showed ultima hard fight along time ago? Where he participated as a black mage? For someone who claims to play his own game as a blm (and even raid), he didn't seem to know it very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Not only do I doubt the NA team actually delivering these posts, even if they did, yoshi won't be there to read it. He's too busy having paid for vacations disguised as PR. From gamescom, to E3, to Pax, to China, to Korea, to TGS in the span of 3 months.
    Yoshi P is just a figure head. The illuminati are the ones pulling the strings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Not only do I doubt the NA team actually delivering these posts, even if they did, yoshi won't be there to read it. He's too busy having paid for vacations disguised as PR. From gamescom, to E3, to Pax, to China, to Korea, to TGS in the span of 3 months.
    If you was paying attention to all of this you would of noticed how completely exhausted Yoshi was when he was doing all this on release of 2.0 and even before the expansion release too.

    So to say he is taking "paid vacations" is kind of insulting to the amount of work the guy really does, what he really needs to do is pass the Producer job onto someone else, sadly I don't think anyone else could publicise the game with the enthusiasm that he holds and I certainly wouldn't want to remove him as Director for the game where he has done such a fine job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firepower View Post
    If you was paying attention to all of this you would of noticed how completely exhausted Yoshi was when he was doing all this on release of 2.0 and even before the expansion release too.

    So to say he is taking "paid vacations" is kind of insulting to the amount of work the guy really does, what he really needs to do is pass the Producer job onto someone else, sadly I don't think anyone else could publicise the game with the enthusiasm that he holds and I certainly wouldn't want to remove him as Director for the game where he has done such a fine job.

    I'd have more sympathy for the guys coding the 1.xx content that got completely trashed when the game turned 2.00.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    I'd have more sympathy for the guys coding the 1.xx content that got completely trashed when the game turned 2.00.
    As a software guy myself, I have to second this. Nothing could be worse than watching many years of my work get tossed into the fire. At least they got paid for it.

    Yeah, the job should get passed along. Not because I think Yoshida can't handle it, but rather so Yoshida can have a new passion project to do or something. He deserves a break after working on the same game for so many years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    As a software guy myself, I have to second this. Nothing could be worse than watching many years of my work get tossed into the fire. At least they got paid for it.
    Right? I remember yoshi saying that while he's giving more attention to the work on 2.0, he's still overseeing both 2.0 and 1.xx so he must have designed the 1.xx content himself (at least I hope so cause if not, that's even worse). So he basically he designed content that he didn't even believe in then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    Yeah, the job should get passed along. Not because I think Yoshida can't handle it, but rather so Yoshida can have a new passion project to do or something. He deserves a break after working on the same game for so many years.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    Right? I remember yoshi saying that while he's giving more attention to the work on 2.0, he's still overseeing both 2.0 and 1.xx so he must have designed the 1.xx content himself (at least I hope so cause if not, that's even worse). So he basically he designed content that he didn't even believe in then?
    Yoshi-P had nothing to do with 1.0 content to my knowledge. Hiromichi Tanaka was the Producer of all 1.0 content and Nobuaki Komoto was Director. Both rightfully stepped down after the 1.0 version of XIV flopped monumentally and was in danger of being totally shut down.

    Yoshi-P was then brought on board as a final attempt to save the project, which he did. However he had no involvement in XIV before 2.0. Which means he has only been Producer and Director for 2 years of this games public life. He should be commended for bringing this game back from the brink, however he should not by any means pass the reigns onto a new Producer/Director. FFXIV would not be here if it was not for Yoshi-P. He was XIV's last chance, and considering ARR is the first FF title he has ever worked on, he has done an amazing job.

    He is not some old, tired, and worn designer that should be put out to pasture. He has a lot left to give to XIV.
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