Take away the MP cost on our attacks

[Galka75]

I thnk they just start to tweaking PUG to fit mnk purposes. A melle class who use mp to "boost" his attks. Looks at vedant hora (raid weapon for pug) gives mnd. So i am think the pug will be a DRK type but using mp instead of hp to improve attks and other abilitys. Bt they need to increase his mp pool for sure. It sucks atm. XD

[Viridiana]

I thnk they just start to tweaking PUG to fit mnk purposes. A melle class who use mp to "boost" his attks. Looks at vedant hora (raid weapon for pug) gives mnd. So i am think the pug will be a DRK type but using mp instead of hp to improve attks and other abilitys. Bt they need to increase his mp pool for sure. It sucks atm. XD

Except that +Mind from gear doesn't (currently) convert to +MP. All it does is give +Magic Defense, basically, so the Hora is more an example of "Hey, guys, don't forget that tanks need MND to survive magic attacks."

[Galka75]

Except that +Mind from gear doesn't (currently) convert to +MP. All it does is give +Magic Defense, basically, so the Hora is more an example of "Hey, guys, don't forget that tanks need MND to survive magic attacks."

You guys must try to dont argue all whiout think in the futures patch. So dont say omg pug is nerfed whit mp consuming abilitys. Try to see the overall of the matter. This is just the very first step on the battle mechanic. For the stats dotn giving mp and hp they sqy they will make the armor stats more noticiable an a important matter on the playstyles along whit materia system incoming. So is not crazy tothink they will defining classes whit his weapon stats. And waiting for 1.19 to see... OOH that was for that!

The mnd for tanks... Since when pug is a tank oriented job if taunt have 50 secs recast?

[Viridiana]

The mnd for tanks... Since when pug is a tank oriented job if taunt have 50 secs recast?

Oh, that's a riot. If you're relying on Taunt for aggro, you're failing so, so hard. . .

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Since when is GLA a tank if Heavy Slash has a 60 sec recast?
Since when is GLA a tank if Heavy Stab has a 60 sec recast?
Since when is MRD a tank if Warmonger has a 120 sec recast?
Since when is MRD a tank if Full Swing has a 60 sec recast?

Your question was so far beyond pointless. . .

[Galka75]

Oh, that's a riot. If you're relying on Taunt for aggro, you're failing so, so hard. . .

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Since when is GLA a tank if Heavy Slash has a 60 sec recast?
Since when is GLA a tank if Heavy Stab has a 60 sec recast?
Since when is MRD a tank if Warmonger has a 120 sec recast?
Since when is MRD a tank if Full Swing has a 60 sec recast?

Your question was so far beyond pointless. . .

Ein? I just saying a tank need mitigate dmg aslong hold enmity. Is cleary th want focus th gladiator as a the main tankb so why do you write about attack abilitys? The enmity generated by those abilitys is barely a support. And btw the pug dont have enmity-attks. So why do you think pug will be tank and mnd will play a important role on this?

[Viridiana]

Ein? I just saying a tank need mitigate dmg aslong hold enmity. Is cleary th want focus th gladiator as a the main tankb so why do you write about attack abilitys? The enmity generated by those abilitys is barely a support. And btw the pug dont have enmity-attks. So why do you think pug will be tank and mnd will play a important role on this?

Right, because Jarring Strike clearly isn't an enmity attack. I mean, it's not like we get +Defense and +Evade abilities, or abilities that only work after an evade. Since, y'know, you can only evade often if you're tanking.

I mention those specific attacks because, even though the enmity off of them isn't much, it adds up. Much like you'd throw out the occasional Taunt. You can't rely on any one class's abilities to tank. It doesn't work. Saying "Taunt has a 50 second recast. How can PGL tank with that?" is the same as saying "Heavy Slash has a 60 second recast. How can GLA tank with that?" It's factually correct, but so far removed from the big picture as to be meaningless. GLA and PGL both need other class's abilities to tank effectively. So does MRD, and MRD actually beats the other two on certain fights.