Final Fantasy 14 is starting to lose appeal because...

[DreamAngel-Ren]

Besides, FFXIV hasn't released variety since it launched. Each new patch or expansion has pretty much only contained one or two new dungeons, perhaps a new raid, which all follow the same template as all the other dungeons and raids that already exist and drop gear that makes those other dungeons all irrelevant.

That must be just you and several others because I find variety from FFXIV, I never get bored with it at all because I don't expect much from it. Despite what others say it still doing the same formula, those new dungeons, raids, primal battles, etc. still have me at my toes because I don't know what's going to happen; plus with the new players in the mix, it just made things more exciting. There are others things to do such as crafting, hunting, gold saucer, hanging out with buds, etc. As they release new patches, new stuff will be added and the to do list increases.

[Evtrai]

The expansion has been out for only almost 3 months...you can't expect them to have so much variety right off the bat after we are just now getting use to HW.

"The game just came out 8 months ago give it time, The first expansion isn't even out yet!"

- Random offended White Knight .


Except the content for the following 8-9 months has already been detailed as basically the same, what's gonna be the next excuse after that time frame? the second expansion isn't even out yet?

[Fevelle]

And now they're even thinking of implementing VR. YAY, now I can do my daily chores and run Tam-tara normal and Tam-tara hard every single day and feel like I'm there!

[Adire]

And now they're even thinking of implementing VR. YAY, now I can do my daily chores and run Tam-tara normal and Tam-tara hard every single day and feel like I'm there!

And dragoons can get an extremely realistic floor view! YAY!

First person view in this game gives me a headache though. Couldn't imagine it with VR....

[Cherie]

I think it would be more fun if somehow things scaled a bit better.

Like, for instance, the pony farm parties now almost always do it unsync'd it seems now. Earning a pony used to be kinda fun, but rofl-stomping the ex primals isn't so fun.

Doing "chores" like the OP said is fairly accurate. Things feel like a chore if they are just super easy and tedious. I can see why SE might not want to make things too hard, but there is a happy medium in there somewhere. Being too easy is almost worse than being too hard.

[Gyson]

How the hell can the dev team survive on only keeping people's interest for as little as 2 years after having invested so much time and resources into this type of game? MMOs are monsters that take a long time to make, a lot of human resources and a lot of money. The investment needs to pay off, which is why it's intended to last AT LEAST 10 years.

The life of the game, yes. You as a subscriber, however, not so much.

Every year there is a new flock of gamers coming up the proverbial ladder, ready to try out MMOs for their first time. What you're suggesting would sound grim, except the market is not solely dependent on whatever snapshot of gamers happens to be playing an MMO here and now. There will be people to replace you and I long after we've left, and likely for a good long while. Every MMO I have played and moved on from has managed to survive my (and others) departure, even prospered in some cases, save for those that were plagued with bad decisions from the start and unable to recover (note: FFXIV is not one of those games any longer).

Also, I'm not sure what the initial (or continued) development cost of FFXIV was/is, or how much they've managed to recoup, but I can tell you from first-hand experience it does not take 10 years to break even on MMO development unless that development went ludicrously over budget.

Obviously developers would love to have a 100% retention rate and 0% churn, with a population that continues to climb ever upwards as more new players are added to the existing pot, but I believe most accept they're going to lose a reasonable percentage after the first month, much less after two years. I think the dream of becoming the next WoW success story has been long abandoned by most sane devs.

[DreamAngel-Ren]

"The game just came out 8 months ago give it time, The first expansion isn't even out yet!"

- Random offended White Knight .


Except the content for the following 8-9 months has already been detailed as basically the same, what's gonna be the next excuse after that time frame? the second expansion isn't even out yet?

People don't have patience and literally thinks that SE is gonna continue doing the same thing over and over again. No one knows what SE is going to do, we just have to wait and see. Even if they did bring in new different material/formula, eventually someone will figure out what's wrong with it. The game is just not going to be how you wish it to be, the dev team can only do what they can because hello, they got a budget.

[Evtrai]

People don't have patience and literally thinks that SE is gonna continue doing the same thing over and over again. No one knows what SE is going to do, we just have to wait and see. Even if they did bring in new different material/formula, eventually someone will figure out what's wrong with it.

For the sake of the game, and even though the first out of the gate content is basically 2.0 all over again and 3.1 is 2.1 AGAIN, I hope you are right, Thor hears you.

[DreamAngel-Ren]

For the sake of the game, and even though the first out of the gate content is basically 2.0 all over again and 3.1 is 2.1 AGAIN, I hope you are right, Thor hears you.

At least I have an open mind.

[Obysuca]

At least I have an open mind.

Join date- July 2015 >_> Give it time. Most of us had an open mind in 2.0, until seeing the same old content formula for every single update (2-3 dungeons, 2 of which being rehashed older dungeons, 1 primal, 1 8 or 24 man raid). Where's all that content from 2.0 - 2.55 you ask? Dead and obsolete. Most (like dungeon gear or some primals) are obsolete on release.