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  1. #1381
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    Rikkustrife's Avatar
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    Overlord Rikkustrife
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    Diabolos
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    Archer Lv 65
    was confirmed there will be job changes in 3.1, but no job or change was specified
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    Last edited by Rikkustrife; 09-13-2015 at 01:29 PM.

  2. #1382
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    Vinestra's Avatar
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    Vine Rainyday
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    Mateus
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by twoheadedenby View Post
    The thing is, on a high-latency connection you need to ALREADY be moving before the AOE marker goes up if you want to avoid it, and ARR bard is the only job that has ever accomodated that need. I fully believe that there needs to be a tradeoff for bard's high mobility (and imo there already WAS - the heavy reliance on auto-attack and lower DPS means you had to be attacking and positioning to face the boss constantly during phases where other DPS could focus on just movement and letting their TP regenerate a little), but removing it in the name of homogenising the game and making it less accessible to people who struggle with movement mechanics for reasons outside their own control was not the solution.
    So much this Stupid Australian latency.
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  3. #1383
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    Warlyx's Avatar
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowaeth View Post
    Was this confirmed anywhere?
    nop just guessing , but is a huge patch and Brds havent been touched at all since 3.0 (outside boosting WM) im fairly sure that 3.1 will bring some changes, maybe iron jaws instant (/pray) , reworked W.Paean , River of blood changes (BL proc)

    the change i want the most is new animations for casting and iron jaws (ugh).
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  4. #1384
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    nop just guessing , but is a huge patch and Brds havent been touched at all since 3.0 (outside boosting WM) im fairly sure that 3.1 will bring some changes, maybe iron jaws instant (/pray) , reworked W.Paean , River of blood changes (BL proc)

    the change i want the most is new animations for casting and iron jaws (ugh).
    I would like to see some BRD QoL changes, but in my opinion SE are gonna bring some QoL to DRG, MNK, BLM, SMN, NIN, WHM, AST or SCH before than BRD. SE are happy with BRD current state, BRD is played by more people than MCH by far, and Alexander Savage turn 4 world first kill was with BRD. I repeat, i would like to see some BRD QoL changes but i don't expect to much from SE.
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  5. #1385
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    Dracyn Navarre
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Yeah as much as I would love to see some changes...I get the feeling that Bard's going to get another rock in 3.1 With the way our luck's been going in this expansion, I would not be surprised if they decided to increase the cast timers or some other foolish thing.
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    No more cast bars for Bard! Thank you, Yoshi-P! All hail our lord and savior!

  6. #1386
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Hazy Dreams
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    used to be a career BRD, while i accept the changes are here to stay, they feel as though they were implemented poorly. only way to explain my issues with BRD is by comparison.
    MCH ammo allows for procs, giving skills no cast time allowing for better mobility. not really my biggest issue but is a clear difference when you look at the delay in straighter shot procs.
    BLM being my go to caster for all of 2.x just feels smooth, i cant think of a better way to explain this. theres just a really clunky feeling about BRD in which i can only conclude is the weaving of all our skills off the global cool down
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  7. #1387
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    Odin Hunter
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    Hyperion
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    Bard Lv 60

    Cool

    Why do people hate the new Bow Mage so much? I've been a Bard since day 1 and I love that class even more now. Yes movement is restricted but damage output is still awesome. Besides some battles there really isn't much movement required in the new content. I kinda like the mix up of a mage and archer, just my 2 cents. I find all these negative threads about BRD class pretty discouraging for new players or players trying out new classes. So, just want to say Bard is not broken it is still a fun class to play as long as you are willing to adjust to the changes. Take it from a Bard who's been playing this class since day 1.
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    Last edited by Odin_hunter; 09-15-2015 at 04:34 AM.
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  8. #1388
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    Inferiae's Avatar
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    Yumiya Nagatsuki
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Odin_hunter View Post
    Why do people hate the new Bow Mage so much? I've been a Bard since day 1 and I love that class even more now. Yes movement is restricted but damage output is still awesome. Besides some battles there really isn't must movement required in the new content. I kinda like the mix up of a mage and archer, just my 2 cents. I find all these negative threads about BRD class pretty discouraging for new players or players trying out new classes. So, just want to say Bard is not broken it is still a fun class to play as long as you are willing to adjust to the changes. Take it from a Bard who's been playing this class since day 1.
    Because I'd never get interrupted out of nowhere just from ridiculous server lag with 2.x BRD.
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  9. #1389
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    Odin Hunter
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    Hyperion
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Inferiae View Post
    Because I'd never get interrupted out of nowhere just from ridiculous server lag with 2.x BRD.
    You just gotta deal with it, like all the other BS in the game .
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  10. #1390
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    Rusheel's Avatar
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    Rusheel Vasscus
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    Coeurl
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    used to be a career BRD, while i accept the changes are here to stay, they feel as though they were implemented poorly. only way to explain my issues with BRD is by comparison.
    MCH ammo allows for procs, giving skills no cast time allowing for better mobility. not really my biggest issue but is a clear difference when you look at the delay in straighter shot procs.
    BLM being my go to caster for all of 2.x just feels smooth, i cant think of a better way to explain this. theres just a really clunky feeling about BRD in which i can only conclude is the weaving of all our skills off the global cool down
    Well I think that is in part due to how the cast time of the BLM skills the cast times flow with the gcd so you go from one cast to the next and it flows. Only time their is a big disconnect is using the ogcd between casts which doesnt flow since you cant use them in the middle of a cast, unless you proc for a insta cast or scathe. Now the clunky feeling on BRD is that 1s or so free time after the cast completes to use oGCDs er OGCD singular and if you have any latency or slow reaction to it you're gonna run into a delay with your next GCD and thus breaking the flow which can happen often since we have the bloodletter proc.
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