Why is glam quest level 50 and not like 15?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I never understood why this is such a hit button issue. I'm just glad I can customize my looks.

Nothing sub 50 is worth the gil to glamour, except if you have certain seasonal items.

[Naunet]

Nothing sub 50 is worth the gil to glamour

In your opinion. Considering how popular wardrobe systems are in other games, it astounded me that SE decided to limit it like they did.

It's not like letting people glamour below 50 would suddenly force you to do so.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

The thing is, the only things worth glamouring are those items you're gonna be using a while.

There's no good looking outfits, regardless of role, especially below 15. Frankly? I'd rather those newbies spend a couple of gil getting better equipment then blowing 20k worth of gil on a single measly glamour. All the good looking outfits? Can't glamour those onto lower level items, rendering this conversation moot.

[Noxifer]

For the most part people who just started playing the game aren't gonna have 20k lying around you'll have like maybe 10-30k if you're lucky by lvl 20.Skipping tiers of gear is fine you can use the lvl 32 brayflox gear till 50 if you wanted it's just for lvling. My point for myself in my own experience with MMOs is just lvl, enjoy the story, the zones, and quests. I don't play a game purely for aesthetics but looking badass and cool I can see how this would make someone go I wish I looked like that! which I can totally relate to however most of the gear that you get at 50 (crafted n what not) are just reskins that you can dye that so in the end it doesn't really matter. Lvling DOH as well first I know a ton of people who do that and again, I can understand as if crafting is your joy in this game i'd say do it up, but for me it's combat classes. Glamour didn't make me stop playing this game or make me feel alone I knew I was getting it just when I had gear Worth glamouring.

Well, the characters starting the game from scratch aren't /only/ new players. They're also alts of experienced players, whatever their reason to make an alt character (running lock-out raids more than once, having more retainers/storage, experiencing the MSQ again, wanting a different character for RP reasons.... it doesn't matter), and experienced players tend to know just what earns them gil. And I don't remember who it was, but someone commented in a thread similar to this one that they had a friend who'd levelled a crafting class to ~25, and told them they'd just made a few million gil that week (via said crafting). So legitimately rich low-level characters do exist.

Even if they're not rich... Don't you think it should be up to them what they spend their hard-earned gil on? TBH, the excuse that new players/characters don't have a lot of gil, and therefore the glamour system is fine at 50, sounds a bit patronizing to me (not saying that's the intention, but it's how it sounds in my ears). If they want to spend all their money on over-priced glamour prisms off the market board, why should that be any of your business? O.o

Letting new accounts glamour stuff like the thav bustier or spring dress is only going to promote RMT in a major way, due to the gil prices involved. Path of least resistance.

So you mean level 50 characters automatically have enough gil to throw 3 million on one glamour item? Maybe glamour should be a level 60 quest, instead, to avoid as much RMT as possible? Located in an HW area, of course.
Seriously speaking, though... the majority of people, no matter their level, aren't going to resort to RMT. Just because you can glamour things instead of being forced to wear them to look the part doesn't mean you'll automatically buy more level 1/glamour gear. I got myself the level 1 gear I wanted to wear (mostly event/starter/hempen sets, admittedly) way before unlocking glamour on all my alts. Some don't yet have the Plain Long Skirt (or Spring Skirt, either or) until I've saved enough money or crafted it on my main and had a friend mail it over. It's just an annoyance that I can't wear it in combat, though I have from time to time forgotten I had a 'town wear' gearset on when heading out to level. It rarely goes well, sad to say.

I think the biggest RMT promotion going on are the people selling runs of places for the "cheap, cheap price" of a few millions per run.

The thing is, the only things worth glamouring are those items you're gonna be using a while.

There's no good looking outfits, regardless of role, especially below 15. Frankly? I'd rather those newbies spend a couple of gil getting better equipment then blowing 20k worth of gil on a single measly glamour. All the good looking outfits? Can't glamour those onto lower level items, rendering this conversation moot.

Your opinion is your opinion. The majority of my glamours tend to contain gear through level 1-15 (foestriker, omnom, and the acolyte boots.... ♥), and the level 32 infantry boots from Brayflox have been part of too many tank glamours to count. Does it mean I don't glamour on higher level gear? Of course not. Does it mean there aren't more options at 50 and higher? Not at all. But to say there are no 'good looking outfits' below 50 is a very subjective thing to say.

[Amberyl]

So you mean level 50 characters automatically have enough gil to throw 3 million on one glamour item?

You can duo dragonskin maps for a million gil sales per run. For five minutes work. Yes, they should have.

Edit: I'm presuming you mean 60th, since that's the new cap. Glamouring anything at 50th is pointless now, given you'll be changing gear every two days.

[Noxifer]

You can duo dragonskin maps for a million gil sales per run. For five minutes work. Yes, they should have.

Edit: I'm presuming you mean 60th, since that's the new cap. Glamouring anything at 50th is pointless now, given you'll be changing gear every two days.

Nope, I meant 50, since that's when you unlock the glamour system. And if lowering the unlock requirement to, say, 20 or something, would 'promote RMT' because everyone would want to buy Thavnairian outfits and would have to resort to RMT to do so, it's a fair question to ask if that happens the moment people hit 50 and unlock the glamour system.

Edit: Whether glamouring while levelling is pointless or not is also a very subjective thing. For some dungeon gear, I immediately glamour it as soon as I can put it on. Sometimes because I don't like the 'mix-and-match' look, sometimes because I really, really dislike the look of the gear. Other times I like the look of the gear, but not the way it looks on male Au Ra. These thighs we have... In some robes or below-the-waist shirts/tunics, they can make us look more fertile than the most hourglass-shaped woman you saw. My hips don't lie.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

I suppose that is true. I never liked the low level gear, but I have been told I have odd tastes in glamour choices. Besides the fact I avoid nudist glamours like the plague.

[Adire]

The thing is, the only things worth glamouring are those items you're gonna be using a while.

There's no good looking outfits, regardless of role, especially below 15. Frankly? I'd rather those newbies spend a couple of gil getting better equipment then blowing 20k worth of gil on a single measly glamour. All the good looking outfits? Can't glamour those onto lower level items, rendering this conversation moot.

Notice something? All of this is below level 15 :P