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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post

    I'm on Balmung and I don't think I could pull together even 8 people to run CT consistently. Anyone able to do that would be at an ilvl and level where there would be little reason to do that anyways.
    Then are you sure many players want it to be relevant again? Balmung is one of the most populated servers. If you don't think you could scrounge up 8 people willing to run it for fun, that says a bit.

    People suggesting unsynched are trying to compromise with you, because some of us don't want to run old content to get new gear. CT had it's time in the spotlight, it's not fair to the new 24 man to split the time. Some of us don't want a reason to go back to it because that sounds an awful lot like forcing us back to it. Sure, it's optional, so is wearing gear or ever leveling a battle class. But if you incentivize it then it has to be worth while, and not doing it is sabotaging ourselves. Throw out something other than the one way you envision this working. You've been extremely uncompromising.

    The incentives are particularly troubling in the context that you are saying no one is willing (not only wants, but just is willing) to run it for fun on your server.
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    Last edited by Malevicton; 09-14-2015 at 10:49 AM.

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    Erin Grey
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
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    I'm pretty sure the lack of complaints points to either apathy or support of it. Complaints happen when people are discontent, and I haven't seen much complaining about this system. Actually I've seen more people praise it than complain about it personally. This thread is actually where I've seen most of the complaints about the system of all my time playing. Haven't seen many people complaining about it before now, even though it's been going on for a long time.

    And it is fair to the new 24 man. The new 24man will drop gear that isn't outdated for maxed out jobs, the old one will give non-gear incentives for returning, minus the relic of course.

    Not being uncompromising at all. People saying unsynced is the only way are.

    SE has been doing what I'm suggesting for as long as I can remember, because it benefits everyone and is optional. How much more fair can you get for everyone? That IS the compromise, the payment in the form of incentives is to reward people for doing something they may not want to do. AKA pretty much any grind. Everyone benefits.

    Oh and uhhh...relics ARE very optional. I know many people who chose not to do ARR relics (myself included) and things worked out just fine.

    You said yourself that leveling off dungeons is better than roulettes, so any experience given by a CT roulette surely wouldn't make that obsolete, would it?
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    Last edited by Adire; 09-14-2015 at 11:13 AM.