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[Lucke]

So I'm doing my EX Roulette every day like a good little tank, but I noticed something....disturbing. Every single day in every single roulette for the last week or so, I get DPS that run ahead and pull a bunch of mobs expecting me to get them off them. Like, is this a thing now, DPS pulling? These weren't some noobs or fresh 50 people, these are people in full law/Eso/Alex gear. Are DPS pullers now for some reason? They are like all confused as to why I don't want them running ahead face pulling everything.

Me: "Do you mind staying behind me so you don't face pull everything please?"
Them: "Why?"
Me: "What do you mean, 'why?'?"
I'm not being an asshole, I use words like, "please" and thank you".

At least when I call them out on it, they let me lead the way.

[Aldora]

So I'm doing my EX Roulette every day like a good little tank, but I noticed something....disturbing. Every single day in every single roulette for the last week or so, I get DPS that run ahead and pull a bunch of mobs expecting me to get them off them. Like, is this a thing now, DPS pulling? These weren't some noobs or fresh 50 people, these are people in full law/Eso/Alex gear. Are DPS pullers now for some reason? They are like all confused as to why I don't want them running ahead face pulling everything.

Me: "Do you mind staying behind me so you don't face pull everything please?"
Them: "Why?"
Me: "What do you mean, 'why?'?"
I'm not being an asshole, I use words like, "please" and thank you".

At least when I call them out on it, they let me lead the way.

To be completely honest Lucke, no. They are not confused, but more or less impatient.

They believe that you can tank faster and more, because they believe that the DPS is high enough for it or that the tank & healer can handle it. If a DPS or Healers believe that we can tank more, ask instead of just pulling more mobs. It's quite possible that the tank doesn't have enough MP or TP to gain enough hate for that pack. Or (s)he doesn't have the proper cooldowns ready to soak the damage. But, instead of slowing down and taking it easy (in order to make the dungeon run more smoothly), they tend to stick to it, making the run unnecessarily tough and awkward.

There is not much you can do about it, rather then asking them to slow down or grin and bear with it (which in the end does not help you enjoying your experience).

The funny thing is, while i was playing FFXI, it was fairly common for 1 DPS to go out and pull monsters while the rest of the party was out there killing the previous target you pulled. The reason they did that, was to keep the Experience Bonus Chains going and maxing out the Experience Points you got from a kill. This was done while you were in leveling parties, grinding for Experience Points in the open world and it worked like a charm. However, since the Experience points are so low in the open world, these Grinding parties don't exist anymore and we would have to resort to "Zerging" FATE's or running Duties for Experience Points. When you look at the way people are running dungeons, you do see a trend that people are trying to rush more, rather then keeping a steady pace, chaining each kill and leveling up "Efficiently". This is something i do miss from FFXI. Everyone seems to in a rush to complete their objectives in FFXIV.

If you as a member of the party are not comfortable with the way the rest of the group are pulling monsters or handling the dungeon mechanics, it's no shame to tell them that. But, since we're playing with so many different kinds of players, you'll get mixed responses ranging from kind to insulting, from funny to appalling.

This is also very much visible in the way people speak to each other on the forums. There are people who are trying to be nice, trying to be funny as well as trying to hold a decent discussion/conversation, but there are also more then enough people who bash, belittle and insult others. Unfortunately, this isn't something that with the Final Fantasy XIV community, but something that is increasing on all fronts within the human society. Common courtesy is starting to become a rare phenomenon.

In general, the dungeons i run go pretty smoothly, since i know what people expect me to do and i'm pretty confident that i can actually pull it off. But, i do get rather annoyed when you are doing your best to make a duty run smoothly while you see people not giving it all they've got, don't listen to strategies (and thus keep on ignoring mechanics) or simply don't want to learn new techniques/enhance their abilities.

That basically is currently my problem with the community right now, which makes be feel a bit burned out on the game. So, i keep logging in to make sure i got my Esoterics capped and gearing up my main classes, while playing other games like Bloodborne, The Wolf among Us, Diablo 3, GTA V, etc to get some variation in. (That, and i still have a ton of games i haven't played yet)

3.1 should give us more content to sink our teeth into and i can't wait to get my hands on that. But, till then. I'm taking it easy. (^_~ )

*snip snip*

I still want to respond to your post Sylkis, but i've been rather busy lately and haven't gotten the time and motivation to sit down and continue the discussion. So... To be continued. (^_~ )

[Reila_Circus]

So I'm doing my EX Roulette every day like a good little tank, but I noticed something....disturbing. Every single day in every single roulette for the last week or so, I get DPS that run ahead and pull a bunch of mobs expecting me to get them off them. Like, is this a thing now, DPS pulling? These weren't some noobs or fresh 50 people, these are people in full law/Eso/Alex gear. Are DPS pullers now for some reason? They are like all confused as to why I don't want them running ahead face pulling everything.

Me: "Do you mind staying behind me so you don't face pull everything please?"
Them: "Why?"
Me: "What do you mean, 'why?'?"
I'm not being an asshole, I use words like, "please" and thank you".

At least when I call them out on it, they let me lead the way.

Only in in early dunjins like Sastashrfgadfgw and Tam tara where people are new to MMOs. In Ex roulletes, I guess I'm the minority Tank that people actually listen to when I say something.

Me: "Could you please not cast regain while I'm pulling? It's making them aggro to you if I don't get them all."
Them: "k"
Me: "ty"
Them: "Np bb"