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  1. #81
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    Dagda's Avatar
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    Dagda Coldbane
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    Exodus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Wow, you are complaining about healers that don't DPS? I am a BLM that has to heal about as much as I should be DPSing because most healers I run into aren't coordinated enough to heal let alone DPS and heal. Lets not be to hard on the simpletons, good healers are few and far in between in any game let alone a game they are expected to heal and DPS in.
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    Last edited by Dagda; 09-10-2015 at 05:34 PM.

  2. #82
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    Kageru77's Avatar
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    Kageru Kenshin
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    When I am still learning content, I will stick to just healing. As this process progresses I pepper in my debuffs, and once I learn how hard everything hits, and boss AOE rotations I'll go full dps mode while still healing. I play whm almost exclusively and love fine tuning the stance dance.
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  3. #83
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    Cold_Raven's Avatar
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    Cold Raven
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 70
    I bet those non-DPS healers are just multitasking better than the OP.

    You didn't think that when you play FF14, you have to ONLY play FF14, did you?
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  4. #84
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    Istede's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Ixara Thorne
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    I am a scholar main. My job is NOT ONLY to heal, but to make the run as quick and smooth as possible. That is my obligation since I am playing with other people and their time is just as valuable as mine.

    I think it's fine to focus on healing when you are learning a fight, or if you've got some jokers in your party who don't use cooldowns or can't avoid huge red circles. Anything else is laziness, lack of knowledge, or a lack of self-confidence. I can't speak for WHM or AST, but scholar has an incredible array of tools that can give you a lot of room to DPS. I see soo many people who don't use rouse off CD, don't use virus, don't use e4e, don't use deploy or emergency tactics, don't adlo+ss between pulls, don't swiftcast shadowflare to get slow up, I could go on and on.

    If you feel like you /can't/ dps, start using ALL of your skills more liberally. You can hold a cooldown if you're about to start a boss fight, but "saving" stuff is a bad habit and you aren't helping the group.
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  5. #85
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    Vickii's Avatar
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    Elise Marie
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    My experience is that if the dps is doing their job right, then 1.) occasionally they take damage as well as the tank and b) my dps isn't really going to make a difference so i tend to just heal.

    If it's an easy dungeon, then i dps of course, but to be honest, more often than not tanks are taking so much damage that i have to mostly heal or they'll die.
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  6. #86
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    Dagda's Avatar
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    Dagda Coldbane
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    Exodus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold_Raven View Post
    I bet those non-DPS healers are just multitasking better than the OP.

    You didn't think that when you play FF14, you have to ONLY play FF14, did you?
    lol very true, I usually have the sound off and I watch something on my other monitor.
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  7. #87
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    Staris's Avatar
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    Staris Fate
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Vickii View Post
    My experience is that if the dps is doing their job right, then 1.) occasionally they take damage as well as the tank and b) my dps isn't really going to make a difference so i tend to just heal.

    If it's an easy dungeon, then i dps of course, but to be honest, more often than not tanks are taking so much damage that i have to mostly heal or they'll die.
    If you think your dps isn't going to make a difference you either don't have a parser, or don't consider your time to have any value.
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  8. #88
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    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Fiona Greentear
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    The problems is that Healers aren't obliged to DPS. If you have a healer that DPS, be happy my friend. If not, don't go kicking him or cursing in the party chat, just do your thing and let go.
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  9. #89
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    Nova_Dresden's Avatar
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    Nova Dresden
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    If I am 100% sure that I can spend time DPSing with 0% chance of someone dying, I will. If not, I'll just heal. DPS is a plus for my job, not one of my primary responsabilities.
    Pretty much my point of view. I'm a healer. I heal. If I can DPS then I will, but I should never be expected to DPS. We have 2 DPS in the party to fulfill that role. If things are slow it's on them and the size of the pulls the tank is bringing in. If you insist on pulling everything possible at one time then someone has to heal you through that since everything now hits way harder than at level 50, and hopefully the DPS can actually AoE pretty well. If things are slower and smaller I can pretty much let Selene just do her thing and DPS the whole dungeon though. Conversely as a tank I've had it with white mages because I'm apparently just a macro target for Benediction and Tetragrammaton in between their Holy/Assize/Stone III spam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fevelle View Post
    HP means a bigger error margin for us healers, and it makes our life much easier.
    Word. Warriors are my biggest pet peeve with this. Dungeon starts off with them at ~20k HP so I kinda got an idea on how much damage they can take and how much healing they need. First big massive pull they're nearly dead seconds in and I have to fight to get their HP back closer to that 20k......then I see they dropped Defiance for Deliverance mid fight and lost 4000 HP, a self heal, and Inner Beast along with its damage reduction buff.
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  10. #90
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    Nova Dresden
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    If you think your dps isn't going to make a difference you either don't have a parser, or don't consider your time to have any value.
    Technically a parser isn't allowed by the games TOS. I'd be careful about admitting you use one on the official forums.
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