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    Critical-Limit's Avatar
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    Xizzy Azenith
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    Zalera
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    Tanks: Your main job is to keep aggro and maintain it. If you wanna push some more DPS out, more power to ya, just don\\\\\\\\\\'t get too fancy and lose aggro.
    Healer: Your main job is keeping your party alive. If everyone\\\\\\\\\\'s okay on health, and you wanna push out some more DPS, more power to ya. Just don\\\\\\\\\\'t let anyone die when you\\\\\\\\\\'re too busy DPS\\\\\\\\\\'ing in Cleric Stance.
    DPS: You have ONE job.

    As long as you are fulfilling your main role, whether that be keeping aggro or keeping everyone healed, I really don\\\\\\\\\\'t care if you wanna push out some DPS, just don\\\\\\\\\\'t wipe the group because you forgot your main role.
    if you want to be the best you can be you need to be willing to push limits and test how far you can push things like letting the tank HP drop low to squeeze more dPS.

    I respect the dPS that tried to jump on Bismarck too early and dies trying to test his limits.
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    Rin_Kuroi's Avatar
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    Tahlia Panipahr
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I'm so lazy when doing my experts. Soooo lazy. I'll only help with damage when the dps are derps. Otherwise the extra minute or two I shave off the clear time isn't worth the effort.

    Then again I can't recall the last time I did an expert in df :P
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    Yusei Max
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    As Healers, our job is keep everyone alive. We can if we're comfortable doing so but we aren't REQUIRED to do so. Play whatever healer job you want and enjoy it.
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    Jazuke Taizago
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcu18 View Post
    As Healers, our job is keep everyone alive. We can if we're comfortable doing so but we aren't REQUIRED to do so. Play whatever healer job you want and enjoy it.
    If they do. Then we will lose Playerbase, because we refuse to fulfill Roles, and the game becomes unplayable when everyone else does the same because "I'm not required to do so.". The mindset you must have playing as a Healer is "Do my very best and stay focused on everyone!". We'll never improve our Skills if we refuse to fulfill the demand of the Job we picked. Comfort will be if you believe you're up for the challenge, regardless how horrible things goes. Fall and rise again to retry until success has been achieved. But yes, i agree on playing whatever Healer Job you want to.
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jazuke View Post
    because we refuse to fulfill Roles
    I always read fulfill roles.

    But first of all the people should take a look into the mirror, before pointing with the finger on others.

    Since I'm playing AST too, I'm watching others performance to decide, who is getting my cards and who not.

    I'm not kicking ppl when they perform bad. I do not leave when they perform bad. I do not complain when they perform bad. But I know it.

    So over the last couple of month, the overall DPS players are fulfilling their role for around 30% or less, compared to the DPS players in my static. Even the majority of tanks deal less than half DPS, compared to the tanks in my static.

    Do we point on the bad DPS players? No, because you can only know about the bad performance when using "parserz".

    Do we point on the bad tank players? No, because same reason as above.

    Bad DPS of tanks and DSP players is not the onliest issue for healers. Also the majority of players have a movement like a tree and do not avoid damage that is avoidable. Also intelligent usage of cooldowns is mandatory to get room for DPS.

    So why everyone and his mother is complaining here about healers?

    I'm pretty shure: The absolute minority of players in this thread, that are complaining here about healers, are performing good for their own.

    Look into the mirror. There is much more room for improvements.
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    Jazuke Taizago
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    fulfill roles.
    I wasn't saying that. I was saying basically saying something like what you said, but i can't write an essay, cause i max at 1000 Words. Sorry for the confusion.

    But yes. You have a valid point. But mine wasn't about "You must fulfill your Roles.". And i wasn't pointing fingers at people, so stop assuming i am. I'm tired of people thinking i'm out to make trouble everyday. I wish i could write an literal essay so explain everything in detail. And the only times i Vote a kick is if their attitude is very negative, so yeah.

    And to be honest. People bash me for doing my very best, and leading me to taking a good rest from FFXIVARR, cause it stresses me out to keep everyone in tip top shape.

    Honestly speaking. You play the way you want to play, but don't stop improving and practicing, cause Humans strive for becoming better in any way possible. The Role you pick is the same thing as you pick a Job in real life, exception you won't get kicked out but by Party's consent if you're not meeting up to their standards, which is mean, yes. But what can you do? In my Party and FC, we just do what we feel we wanna do. Find people who's a lot more calm and patient, hopefully won't bash you for silly reasons.
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    Last edited by Jazuke; 10-06-2015 at 05:39 PM.

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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    ...Lol I've never used Apocatastasis. Really most of you here aren't the right kind of people to pass judgment on anyone.

    Anyhow, well I'm only 33WHM, but I find that sometimes it's impossible to DPS. If I put up cleric, and start stone, the tank is about to die mid cast -.-. And this is FROM full health. Yeah, the ability to DPS is largely dependent on the tank you have.
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    ...Lol I've never used Apocatastasis. Really most of you here aren't the right kind of people to pass judgment on anyone.
    Really bad timing on that second sentence. Apoca's awesome. If you've literally never used it then you probably shouldn't pass judgement either :P
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    Miranda Madison
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    Really bad timing on that second sentence. Apoca's awesome. If you've literally never used it then you probably shouldn't pass judgement either :P
    Well actually that was a misunderstanding on my part. I confused that with that other spell that teleports you. Now that I know what it is, yeah I'll start using it.

    However some of the worst people this planet has had the unfortunate event of having exist on it, post on these forums. Just read general discussion, heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilite View Post
    Well actually that was a misunderstanding on my part. I confused that with that other spell that teleports you. Now that I know what it is, yeah I'll start using it.

    However some of the worst people this planet has had the unfortunate event of having exist on it, post on these forums. Just read general discussion, heh.
    Aetherial Manipulation is also pretty fantastic.

    But do feel free to talk about how terrible everyone else on these forums are.
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