What does Heavensward actually bring to the table as an expansion?

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There'd be a difference if it wasn't the same junk we've gotten every update for the last 2 years. There's been no difference whatsoever. Besides the scenery, tell me. What's so different about CT from void ark? Or Neverreap/Fractal from any of the other expert dungeons besides scenery and very few different boss mechanics? Nothing.

Answer my question, don't simply repeat the same assertions without any evidence. How can you imply CT and Void Ark are the same, do you have some inside track on that content? Seriously, your complaint about no difference boils down to what exactly? A dungeon is a dungeon, there is a map, there are corridors, there are monsters to kill and items to find. What are you looking for that actually differs from what we have? You're demanding difference, but all you can say when asked to describe what you want is "this is the same as that, this is generically similar to that, it should be better". OK, then describe what you think would make it better.

Like I said, 2.0 at cap had 2 dungeons, some primals and coil. Know what 3.0 has? 2 dungeons, some primals and alex. I really don't get how you don't see a difference. I feel like you must be blindly following Yoshi, thinking he can do no wrong, or maybe this is your first mmo, idk. But 2.0 is exactly the same as 3.0, different scenery, same content, nothing new, nothing build upon, just replaced.

So, and I'll ask this really clearly so you can answer this time, what...did....you...expect...? You say that 3.0 is exactly the same as 2.0. Is it? really? So there are new dungeons and trials, and because there were dungeons and trials in 2.0 as well, they are identical? Stop repeating the same empty things and answer the question.

Thing is, none of the things in HW actually expanded on anything, they just replaced the same exact stuff. Alex replaced coil, void ark is replacing CT, neverreap/fractal replaced the last 2 expert dungeons. "They are bringing a new 24 man raid"? Not really. It'll just be LotA, which will then be replaced by the new "ST". Other mmos actually add new content in expansions, rather than completely replace everything, making 80% of the game useless, as XIV is right now. Coil? Ex primals? CT? Any of the 15-20 lvl 50 dungeons? No one touches those unless they get one of the 50 dungeons in roulette. So yes, HW added nothing new, it actually removed a lot of the content we had and gave us less.

Replaced? Unless I miss my guess, nothing was replaced, new things were added. Again, what did you expect and what would you do differently? Be specific please because I'm not getting much from you or others restating that things are the same or HW simply replaced ARR stuff.

Take XI for example with it's expansions, it added a new type of endgame that was different from the others that were out and know what? It build upon that and even continued to build upon the other endgame, so it kept everything relevant, resulting in everyone having more options of what to do and not getting bored with being stuck with 2 expert dungeons which then get replaced by 2 more like XIV does.

Never played XI, don't want to. Without repeating your comparison to XI, please tell us what it is that you expected or think is needed to make things different and justify the word expansion.

The content is just a rehash of what we've already had and they're only adding the bare minimum every single update. 2 dungeons, 1 raid. Then it's replaced by 2 dungeons and 1 24 man raid, which is then replaced by 2 dungeons and 1 raid. There's 0 variety and nothing new.

Oh shit, a new dungeon is just a rehash of what we already have? You're essentially saying that because an entirely new dungeon is a dungeon, it's nothing but a rehash of previous content, simply because that previous content was a 4-man dungeon? So really we have nothing new since the first dungeon, because all the 4 man dungeons are simply rehashes of the 1st 4 man dungeon? all the 8-man encounters are simply rehashes of the 1st one? All the 24-man encounters are rehashes of CT? So why bother, every new game is just a rehash of a previous game, they're both games right? I guess that's why every bipedal enemy is just a rehashed Hyur with a recolor, and every quadrapedal enemy is a rehashed Antelope with a palette switch, right? That is, logically speaking, what you are saying.

HW was just an update with the same (if not less) content than we normally get every 3 months or so.

Sure, because every patch adds new, and larger zones, a ne mode of movement, a new race, 3 new jobs, a new city state and a new main story to navigate

They could have added more ways to get eso, rather than **snip**They could have easily gave all those raids i200 gear, but with varying stats, so you could have more options than them releasing content that's a lower ilvl than the current tome gear.

In other words your complaint centers around raiding content?

Please do tell us why then all that we see in PF or /sh: (Sastasha Normal*) Must know your job/role, must be Uber, have iLvl180 for an iLvl170 run or 5 melded materia gear even on your shield as BLM, 1 fail and you are kicked.

*Kidding with Sastasha normal and shield for BLM here, but this ain't a joke with the real stuff.

It's pretty much 95% of the game right now, at least on NA servers.

That's Casual Gamers for you?

Sarcasm noted. And your point is? A HUGE number of players treat the game as if it were a single player game and won't use PF because they run into people like you who do nothing but belittle them for not being up to your standards. What do you expect?