What does Heavensward actually bring to the table as an expansion?

[Astral145]

I just wish there was more to the flying.

Like give me a reason to fly.

Here's a good reason to fly you don't have to worry about every mob hurling "heavy" poo at you when passing by. Just saying that in it self is the best reason to fly. Heavy is so annoying especially when you are trying to get to a mnr/btn node that is about to time out... I really hope they put flying in the ARR zones in a later patch.

[Bloodb]

Flying
3 new classes
max level increase with everything that comes with that.
red scrips
blue scrips
aetherial nodes
legendary nodes
Seal Rock
new pvp levels, gear, skills.
Master crafting III books
A/S/B ranks with ranks 1, 2 ,3, hunting
Large scale leves
Ishgard and all the new zones
20 new triple-triad cards and another rank i believe (can use 4, 4 star cards)

what else? I'm sure i'm missing some things.

[Kyri]

I know theres still a few having fun but on my legacy server more and more of my friends have left or gotten bored to the point of only doing eso, sometimes not even that. I take things slowly I don't rush because I know patches/expansions are never as big as people seem to think they will be. However I am also growing bored even going slowly. It's not a issue there is no content but that it follows too closely to the -same- content every time. New dungeon new law/eso/tomestone, new primal, new coil. By doing what worked to remain safe they are essentially boring the people by just doing the same game plan over and over with small adds(flying) Scrips though seemingly broken according to other posts and reads are a small step in a different direction(though still very tomestone like) but a bit closer to FFXI Daily guild items for cool things/ability's. Now I'm not saying This is a bad game by any stretch, I'm saying by doing whats safe because it worked once isn't listening to the people(as said in the AWESOME new event rising) and doing what's safe which is essentially boring the mass(myself included) Though I am personally enjoying the game -hate hate HATE- the dungeons and the fact I'm forced to dungeon to get things done. Ok there's pvp or aloootttt of alex normal you can do to avoid redoing the same two dungeons over and over but very slowly. Now I know people are gonna hate this once upon a time I agreed I didn't want a FFXI-2 but the more were going down the road in this game the more I want to change my statement to a "I very much want FFXI-2 with a bit more casual friendly atmosphere then xi did pre abyssea". I spent 9+ years there and never ever got half as bored with the way of things as I do here. I think that's what a lot of people are complaining about.

(though these opinions are my own I just want to quickly point out to those checking lodestone profiles to say "Hey! you barely touched things how do you know!" I actually play three different characters and know of what I speak, thank you.)

[Kosmos992k]

I see, so people who are trying to keep up with the Jones have to rush to keep up with highly subjective and utterly baseless measures of progress?

All I can say is that this is yet anorher self inflicted wound. Ever since I stepped off the gear grind treadmill I have enjoyed the game far more. Perhap you should all do likewise. Chasing such imaginary progress targets is like chasing the wind.

[Evtrai]

I see, so people who are trying to keep up with the Jones have to rush to keep up with highly subjective and utterly baseless measures of progress?

All I can say is that this is yet anorher self inflicted wound. Ever since I stepped off the gear grind treadmill I have enjoyed the game far more. Perhap you should all do likewise. Chasing such imaginary progress targets is like chasing the wind.

Again, what are you to do besides this "gear threadmill" when the game is build around it with it's ilvl and quickly releasing and dumping equipment so fast, redo the content that no one is doing? level all the jobs to 60?, run Bismark and Ravana that also barely anyone is doing? the chore that has also become crafting? farm glamours?

[Kosmos992k]

Again, what are you to do besides this "gear threadmill" when the game is build around it with it's ilvl and quickly releasing and dumping equipment so fast, redo the content that no one is doing? level all the jobs to 60?, run Bismark and Ravana that also barely anyone is doing? the chore that has also become crafting? farm glamours?

Oh please. "what are you to do?" I guess if you pretend that the only part of the game that exists is top tier end game, but then that is in truth a small fraction of the game. If YOU choose to limit YOUR focus and scope in the game to 5% of the game, then YOU have done this to YOURSELF, hence a self inflicted wound.

[Evtrai]

Oh please. "what are you to do?" I guess if you pretend that the only part of the game that exists is top tier end game, but then that is in truth a small fraction of the game. If YOU choose to limit YOUR focus and scope in the game to 5% of the game, then YOU have done this to YOURSELF, hence a self inflicted wound.

It would be more helpful and interested if you detailed on what this consisted besides those baseless counter-arguments.

If you aren't here for epic boss fights, having fun with people trying to beat these epic fights and get gear to become stronger to try beat more difficult meanie bosses, why are you playing an FF game then?! Gear is important in an RPG. Also, what Evtrai said.

If I wanted a dress up game I'd have gone play another game! I've also done housing, do gathering and crafting. Guess what, it's not fun for everyone. I certainly don't limit my focus yet I too agree with the posters you disagree with. There is NOT enough worthwile content in the game to do and when we try to (primals) there is not enough interest because guess wut, gear got oudated in less than what a fly can fly and apparently not many people are interested in vanity stuff enough to do it. Ohhhhhhh.

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Namely Korean MMO's with a glamour cash shop.

[Kosmos992k]

It would be more helpful and interested if you detailed on what this consisted besides those baseless counter-arguments.

crafting
Gathering
Leveling and playing your other classes/jobs
Sightseeing log
Gold saucer
Collect every minion
Collect all mounts
Perfect your glamour
House purchase and decor
beast tribe quests
Hunts
Become rich
Craft and pentameld the ultimate craftable gear
Max out your relics
Teach others
Mentor
Make new friends
Talk to folks
Treasure Maps
Seasonal events
Chocobo breeding/racing
Train your chocobo to lvl 20
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[Tenku]

White knights in this thread are the reason why Square Enix gets away with releasing bad content. I love Square Enix and I love Final Fantasy 14, but come on, they are getting away with releasing really terrible and repetitive content. Where are the open world dungeons? How about updating the map to make it seem like the world is seamless? Airships aren't even real airships in this game because you can't fly all over the world without being instanced. There's really no point to explore the world in this game.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

I see, so people who are trying to keep up with the Jones have to rush to keep up with highly subjective and utterly baseless measures of progress?

All I can say is that this is yet anorher self inflicted wound. Ever since I stepped off the gear grind treadmill I have enjoyed the game far more. Perhap you should all do likewise. Chasing such imaginary progress targets is like chasing the wind.

If you aren't here for epic boss fights, having fun with people trying to beat these epic fights and get gear to become stronger to try beat more difficult meanie bosses, why are you playing an FF game then?! Gear is important in an RPG. Also, what Evtrai said.

If I wanted a dress up game I'd have gone play another game! I've also done housing, do gathering and crafting. Guess what, it's not fun for everyone. I certainly don't limit my focus yet I too agree with the posters you disagree with. There is NOT enough worthwile content in the game to do and when we try to (primals) there is not enough interest because guess wut, gear got oudated in less than what a fly can fly and apparently not many people are interested in vanity stuff enough to do it. Ohhhhhhh.

Namely Korean MMO's with a glamour cash shop.

Oh those are the worst. > I feel korean mmos have a lot potential but they completely get ruined with that F2P model.