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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
    Why would they bring the general population to ilvl210
    Because, they have done it before and will continue their way.

    At release, the tome gear was out of the box max iLvl. The need for upgrading gear got introduced with SCoB first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    Because, they have done it before and will continue their way.At release, the tome gear was out of the box max iLvl. The need for upgrading gear got introduced with SCoB first.
    Continue to do so? This situation we have right now is unlike any situation in ARR. Will the greed of the masses ever end? We have this abysmal raiding situation because we needed a story mode raid. Now at least half of the raiding population has been alienated by the difficulty, and the other half, people who will get a4s clears, might not even manage to do that before people "need" 210 gear to feel accomplished. Will you guys not be happy until there is no end game for anyone and we just play some slot machine mini game for your epics?

    This is not even a point about gear, this a point about progression. There will be several groups, mine included, who will be coming close to getting our a4s kill in early to mid October. I want to get my kill before people just get handed gear and it ruins my sense of accomplishment. It's like hiking a mountain to only find the last mile was a ride up an escalator.

    Meh, doesn't matter. SE is shooting themselves in the foot.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...a_of_faceroll/

    Check for yourself. Plenty of people are unhappy about the raiding scene. releasing twines in hunts before most raiders can get an a3s kill is a great way to alienate an already dissatisfied segment of the player base. Raiders might be a minority, but we still pay money, just like the rest of you guys, and 95% of the game is already catered to the casual player, why not let raiders just have a little more time to get some kills fist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    It gives people that farmed the 210 an advantage going in to the next content. I mean look at what happened, they brought the esoteric gear out before anyone could even get a full Alexander set. I'm quite certain that Ark is going to drop 210's or higher in addition to esoteric upgrade items.
    void ark will indeed drop ilvl200 gear. It's been backwards like that since 2.1. All the 24 man raids in this game are like LFR in wow, except there is no harder version of them. They always drop loot that is 10 ilvls lower than the 8-man raid tier that came before it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zosia View Post
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    While I do get your point about it undermining the efforts of hardcore players, SE needs to release something that'll keep people playing and gear progression is that for most. Void Ark gear will take 4-5 weeks to get, so I'm fine with them delaying the upgrade materials by a month. I have a feeling that you wouldn't be happy if they did that either though. I don't honestly care about ilvls or stats, just the ability to dye the gear, they can give us upgrade materials that just make it dyeable, or push it to ilvl 205 and I'd be fine with it still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    While I do get your point about it undermining the efforts of hardcore players, SE needs to release something that'll keep people playing and gear progression is that for most. Void Ark gear will take 4-5 weeks to get, so I'm fine with them delaying the upgrade materials by a month. I have a feeling that you wouldn't be happy if they did that either though. I don't honestly care about ilvls or stats, just the ability to dye the gear, they can give us upgrade materials that just make it dyeable, or push it to ilvl 205 and I'd be fine with it still.
    I am fine with a month delay, more than happy with that sort of compromise. I will definitely have an a4s clear before halloween. I just want my kill before any "nerfs." At the end of the day, raiders really care about bragging rights with other raiders. I want to be able to keep up with my buddies in other statics, and we do, but we can only raid twice a week and not like five days a week that some of our friends do.

    It's not that my static has players that are bad or unable to rise to the challenge, we just need more time since many on our team are also working full time jobs with families etc etc.
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