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    seraseth's Avatar
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    Velikayl Minx
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    As a sometimes healer I'd be less worried about harassment from parsers, and more worried about dps ignoring mechanics and standing in aoe's because they know everyone can see their dps, and the numbers are all that matter. Either out of fear of being too low and being kicked, or so they can brag about their 'leet' numbers.

    I have seen in other games 'I don't care if I gave the healer an aneurysm, I survived and the mob is dead so suck it'

    Or similar statements.
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    Last edited by seraseth; 09-09-2015 at 04:34 AM.

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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Quote Originally Posted by seraseth View Post
    As a sometimes healer I'd be less worried about harassment from parsers, and more worried about dps ignoring mechanics and standing in aoe's because they know everyone can see their dps, and the numbers are all that matter. Either out of fear of being too low and being kicked, or so they can brag about their 'leet' numbers.

    I have seen in other games 'I don't care if I gave the healer an aneurysm, I survived and the mob is dead so suck it'

    Or similar statements.
    I do this anyway. I have Second Wind and Bloodbath, but too many healers are programmed like FFXII Gambits to cure anything under 80%.

    If it's not fatal or debilitating, I will take the hit and cure myself. Medica II does the rest.
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    Amael Yuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    I do this anyway. I have Second Wind and Bloodbath, but too many healers are programmed like FFXII Gambits to cure anything under 80%.

    If it's not fatal or debilitating, I will take the hit and cure myself. Medica II does the rest.
    This is completely off-topic but the reason the healer is probably quick to heal you is because if you do this constantly you give them a feeling that you will eat all the aoe damage there is and they don't want you to die, they don't know you and they don't know you do this on purpose and heal yourself after that. A good example are dps in alex 4 that just run to the orbs not having any care in the world or waiting for heals, then after eating 2 of them in a row they get hit with perpetual ray and die, or better yet they run next to the tank and die to the missiles. It can be stressful sometimes.
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    Shandraya Heavenswind
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    Quote Originally Posted by seraseth View Post
    I have seen in other games 'I don't care if I gave the healer an aneurysm, I survived and the mob is dead so suck it'
    And then when they do die, "WTF HEALER YOUR (sic) SUPPOSED TO HEAL, FAIL HEALER IS FAIL".

    It's one reason why I don't heal much outside of FC groups now. I'm not going to get blamed because someone stood in the bright orange circle and got exploded.

    Which is really another reason why parsers won't necessarily solve problems. If someone's eating all the AOEs they can survive just to keep their DPS up, that's putting extra strain on the healers, and yet people expect healers to DPS too. Can't do that if someone's basking in the orange glow.
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    Destinova Trueblade
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    Quote Originally Posted by seraseth View Post
    As a sometimes healer I'd be less worried about harassment from parsers, and more worried about dps ignoring mechanics and standing in aoe's because they know everyone can see their dps, and the numbers are all that matter. Either out of fear of being too low and being kicked, or so they can brag about their 'leet' numbers.

    I have seen in other games 'I don't care if I gave the healer an aneurysm, I survived and the mob is dead so suck it'

    Or similar statements.
    Or it might inspire them to stay alive more, you do 0 dps while dead after all.
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    Daiki Sejuro
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    Quote Originally Posted by La_Bluegirl View Post
    I loved that you posted this. Unfortunately, most people against parsers will probably skip watching that video and continue to exaggerate the harrassment. People really are paranoid if you think just because you're 50 dps under someone else you're going to be vote kicked. People get vote kicked for not even bothering to try, not because you're slightly behind the other person. The only time I've vote kicked anyone was because they were literally doing equal dps as a fresh 50 in 2.0, while having plenty of i200 gear, or they just simply can't be bothered to (self admitting) stop chatting to their FC or linkshell and do more than auto attacking.
    What video did you watch cause this did not support parsers it showed how even with the damage meters no one even bothered to say anything....this video was more about the community ignoring things like this and there being no penalty in the matter not that parsers will save you from this situation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    What video did you watch cause this did not support parsers it showed how even with the damage meters no one even bothered to say anything...
    Exactly? This is also from the "ever so toxic" WoW. The main argument everyone throws around, that is anti-parser, is how elitist everyone will be once you can see everyone's numbers. It shows that the average pug really doesn't give a crap about your dps, so stop thinking you're gonna get kicked out of every single DF dungeon you step into and allow the people that would like to use a tool (ps3/ps4/anyone who hasn't downloaded it on pc) to finally do so to improve.
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