So, pretty dead lately....

[Glasya]

You can't get 2-4 hours of enjoyment each month? Just basing that off of other types of entertainment just as a movie or something along that line.

That's not really an apt analogy.
Yeah a movie might cost $12 but that represents potentially hundreds of millions of dollars invested in writing, acting, filming, special effects, etc. to produce the final product.

In the context of an MMO we're talking about $15.30 (factoring in cost of the annual expansion) to grind 2 dungeons I despise over and over.
SE should be paying me to put up with this shit, not the other way around.

[Aeyis]

You can't get 2-4 hours of enjoyment each month? Just basing that off of other types of entertainment just as a movie or something along that line.

Even a B-movie has way more quality per hour. Due to the nature of MMOs.

[Lexia]

In the context of an MMO we're talking about $15.30 (factoring in cost of the annual expansion) to grind 2 dungeons I despise over and over.
SE should be paying me to put up with this shit, not the other way around.

Yea good luck with that, called vote with your wallet and leave then, that what happened with 1.0.

[Ortamus]

I'm afraid 3.1 isn't going to help.

-1 Gold Saucer minigame (will be a stupid grind like Chocobo racing/triple triad because we can't have any minigames that are fun by their own right)

I can't agree more with this. I want to slap them for taking my second favourite Final Fantasy location and using it in the way they have. Who in the blue hell is testing this stuff? Yoshi P says the Golden Saucer is fun. Where by? Did he play "Skin Change We Can Believe In" and say "Outstanding, this was full of laughs and excitement, players will love this and shout my name in endorsement! And I want data on that. The players need to know I'm loved."

When I saw the notes about the upcoming game I was disappointed on a huge scale because it has Grind written all over it. I've said it before on this forum. Use the mini game ideas from Pokemon Stadium because they were real fun, forget rewards and titles, just something we can play with friends and have fun with.

[Lexia]

I literally just got done saying that I planned to only subscribe for patch-months in future. Or am I to assume you're illiterate?

Is that not still giving them money for a product you find inferior? Anyways I wasn't trying to attack you your post was way more aggressive then what I posted. The game been out for 2 years and I just don't see them changing how they going to do things.

[Ashkendor]

forget rewards and titles, just something we can play with friends and have fun with.

Then people bitch that it's "not real content" because there's no rewards.

They can't win for losing.

[Phireblast]

Only reason i'm continuing my sub is because i'm a raid leader. Some people actually want to progress in Savagexander, and I feel it would be a complete dick move to up and leave, especially since finding (competent) people in my server is a massive pain. 3.1(which we might not even see until OCTOBER tbh), doesn't look very appealing to me outside of the story.

-Void ark. wee something i'll find cool for the first week then start getting bored of it because of bad people and loot not dropping
-Airships. On paper, it honestly sounds nothing more different than a glorified treasure hunt.
-Relic. If they shoehorn crafting in this shit again, I might not even bother. Crafting is its own section of endgame content, let's keep it that way please.
-Story. Probably the only appealing thing here since things improved in late 2.0. However, this is only very much so temporary.
-Gold saucer. I'm convinced at this point there's nothing they can add there without making the games feel like a chore.
-Dungeons. Great, two more glorified hallways added to the list for esoteric capping.
-Beast tribe. I never liked them, but I might do it anyway for mounts i'll probably never use.

[Obysuca]

while simultaneously invalidating everything from the previous expansion(s) was a huge part of why WoW lost half its playerbase within six months of the launch of the Warlords of Draenor expansion, and it would be a mistake for FFXIV to follow suit.

But... that's exactly what XIV did lol Does anyone do coil because it's still relevant(as in, still helps you progress and not just doing it because)? Does anyone do LotA/ST/WoD because they're still relevant? How about that horde of high level dungeons just sitting there that give no exp? Zeta weapons that aren't worth it anymore when the game basically hands you an i135 weapon around lvl 55? How about the HM primals? Ultima hm? Hmm? What about those? Nope? Thought so. That right there is invalidating everything pre-3.0 and that's exactly what SE did and continues to do so with each update. Content isn't out long enough before it gets thrown into the trash bin with the other 75% of the game.

In 3.1 it will be 4 dungeons for eso, in 3.2 6 dungeons for the newer tome and so on. It will build up until 4.0

>_> You must have missed the interview recently that said we're only getting 2 dungeons, which judging by 2 years worth of updates, the current 2 will be thrown into high level.

[Glasya]

Is that not still giving them money for a product you find inferior? Anyways I wasn't trying to attack you your post was way more aggressive then what I posted. The game been out for 2 years and I just don't see them changing how they going to do things.

Subscribing for only 4 months of the year still cuts their income by 2/3rds (well, 50% if we include the expansion).
Either SE is content to rest on their laurels by appealing to the casual playerbase who're happy with the current release schedule: and despite how much of an asshole I might appear to be I wont disparage people for not devoting their lives to this game; or they'll have to shape up and release more content to tide over those that have the desire and drive to login once a day. "FFXI" might be a dirty word around here but the developers could stand to take a few leaves from its book. Notorious Monsters, dungeons you explore within a time limit, dungeons in the overworld, frontier work helping out NPCs and defending caravans/fortifications from legitimately dangerous mobs, enemy raids on towns like XIV used to have with the Atomos events in 1.0.
I say all that and I've never actually played XI. But I wish I had. Because it sounds awesome.

Nonetheless, if the pattern of Tome farming + Hardcore raid + Casual raid continue past 4.0 I'm simply going to stop playing. I like the story but the game is extremely bad value for money and it's honestly just not worth the bother.

[TheUltimate3]

Out of curiosity, but what content could they possibly make that will make people "not bored"?