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    Personally feel they are fine where they are. For balance reasons I'm okay with them being limited to only one at a time, and not being able to be used inside of combat. Healers in my book should be the ones dealing with resing mid fight (paladins to maybe haha but that's another discussion).

    Use it myself a few times whenever I'm fate partying with people I know like FC/linkshell friends. People from PF tend to insta-resurrect themselves if no healer is about, and understandably so if the fate is going to take awhile. But, for those sistuations when a pal dies close to when a fate ends its really nice to have haha albiete very situational.

    Also I used to carry raise on on my gld/pali (outside of instances), but with the item I realized I no longer really needed to waste the cross skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pervy View Post
    Personally feel they are fine where they are. For balance reasons I'm okay with them being limited to only one at a time, and not being able to be used inside of combat. Healers in my book should be the ones dealing with resing mid fight (paladins to maybe haha but that's another discussion).

    Use it myself a few times whenever I'm fate partying with people I know like FC/linkshell friends. People from PF tend to insta-resurrect themselves if no healer is about, and understandably so if the fate is going to take awhile. But, for those sistuations when a pal dies close to when a fate ends its really nice to have haha albiete very situational.

    Also I used to carry raise on on my gld/pali (outside of instances), but with the item I realized I no longer really needed to waste the cross skill.
    I don't understand. Where's the balance in not being able to use them multiple times out of combat? Is there any encounter in the game that would be made easier with phoenix downs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    I don't understand. Where's the balance in not being able to use them multiple times out of combat? Is there any encounter in the game that would be made easier with phoenix downs?
    Balance can mean a plethora of things to different people, and we could probably spend all day discussing our points over and over and not get anywhere haha so I won't say your wrong in anyway you feel (because your thoughts are just as valid).

    For me though I do feel its balanced to have it be limited to one person outside of combat as well as inside, since it is a major trait of what makes a healer important to a party especially during fates or playing off in the world/dugeons in general. Haha as backwards and possibly dumb as it probably sounds I feel dying with the heavy consequence of knowing you'll have to most likely have to respawn, since theres healers around to be a very part of a mmo's overall experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pervy View Post
    Balance can mean a plethora of things to different people, and we could probably spend all day discussing our points over and over and not get anywhere haha so I won't say your wrong in anyway you feel (because your thoughts are just as valid).

    For me though I do feel its balanced to have it be limited to one person outside of combat as well as inside, since it is a major trait of what makes a healer important to a party especially during fates or playing off in the world/dugeons in general. Haha as backwards and possibly dumb as it probably sounds I feel dying with the heavy consequence of knowing you'll have to most likely have to respawn, since theres healers around to be a very part of a mmo's overall experience.
    Well, I can tell you as a healer main, I don't feel like my job is threatened by phoenix downs lol.

    More to the point, I feel nobody truly gains any ability they didn't already have if they were to make phoenix downs non-unique. All anyone ever has to do is just level a CNJ to 12, which would probably take 40 minutes. All I'm asking for the slight convenience of being able to avoid the ability cooldown you get when you switch jobs.

    Honestly, I don't ever find myself NEEDING more than one at any time, it'd just save my the trip back to town to pick up another one.
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