Hair contest: petitioning

[Fuma]

This isn't just about me. This is about the collective we who feel the same. The issues are real, I was just the first to think of making this topic. I'm the facilitator, not the leader.

Ok constructive, in life you have winners and losers. Not everyone can win and not everyone can make what the dev team thinks are the top entries. This was your chance to influence their opinion. These posts are getting old and lame, there are several people just like you who feel wronged because they weren't chosen. Your collective are the thousands who entered who weren't selected. So like I said, there are winners and losers, this time you were not chosen as a winner. It happens, move on. You feel your work more deserving than others or that your idea of what should be put up to vote on wasn't picked.

AND in my opinion I thought they did a good job picking masculine, feminine, and gender neutral hairstyles for both male and female hairstyles.

[DoctorSecksy]

This was a better post, but you did not read the first post. This isn't me complaining that i, personality, did not win. That doesn't factor into this opinion. I was never upset. If you had read the first post, you'd understand this and would not try to argue a generalized and unfounded notion.

I'm sorry you feel these posts are getting old. If it makes you feel better, I feel that people coming into this thread and telling me how or why I feel the way I do without reading is getting lame and old.

[KasKatta]

It really is awesome how a debate or difference of opinions somehow makes us rude, disrespectful or "salty." That forum logic right there. Again, I really don't think the purpose of this thread, nor any of the comments in here were made against individuals or individual entries which made the finals. The issue we have is, on whole, the finals lack the variety of choices in styles that we were expecting to come with a creative, community-driven contest.

I'll reiterate what I said earlier. Using the females as examples, we literally just got a ponytail design implemented with HW, why do we need another? Adding a braid or tossing it to the side does not make it any less a ponytail. There are several bob style cuts in game already, again, adding a braid or a clip or something like that does not make it any less a bob. Just as there are already several pigtail styles (across all races) in game already, and yet we see more pigtails in the finals. As far as the males, there are also already several short, spiked or shagged looks in game. Just as there are several of those cuts in the finals. Even if they are designed differently than those in game, it does not make them any less short, spiked and shagged. Do you see the point we're trying to make? It's not that the individual designs themselves are in any way, shape or form undeserving, bad, or illegitimate, but that the finals as a whole do not reflect a desired variety for new, fresh styles that are not re-hashes of what is in game already, or different versions of each other.

This contest is probably too far gone for anything we bring up in this thread, or any other thread, to change it now (which is unfortunate with the female finalists being down an entry now). But it would be nice if SE acknowledges that perhaps in future creative design contests the way things are implemented should be changed to avoid this discontent in the future. Am I going to be called salty and rude for this? Probably.

[LilaAquillina]

Adding my 2 gil, as a lala who was not an entrant:

I wish that the finalists had more variety among them. There should be only one bun, one ponytail, one bob among the lot.

It wasn't handled well, and I hope that SE does things a bit differently in the future.

[Anapingofness]

I'm going to agree with OP.
I feel that SE didn't manage this contest very well. There should have been a greater emphasis on the use of the provided template. There should have been much more diversity in the finalist selections.
I feel that the current finalists are just too similar in design and style- we literally have x5 variations of side ponytails, x3 of which are tied at neck and x2 of which were tied up on the head.
They should have had sections for design in regards to all of the races. Nearly all of the current finalists will look bad on Highlander males and both female and male Roegs. I'm willing to bet that even the taller Highlander females will struggle with the cutesy style of the choices.

After looking through the thread of the entries that didn't make it, I am disappointed by just how narrow a selection we are given.
This isn't to bash the people who did get picked as finalists but there really should have been a better selection.

[Gilraen]

Sigh, I guess threads such as these proves one thing, and one thing only. "You can't please everyone all the time." Seems pretty clear that Square opted for the better option, "Thus it's better not to try." The contest has a fair amount of variety (even if a fair amount of that variety is 'bubblegum and lollipops' cute in both male and female categories) and that was clearly plenty for Square. Could there have been more? Maybe, but I'm not going to complain about it. I will complain that there was a lacking bit of oversight on checking whether submissions followed applicable rules and laws, but as evidenced by Female #12 they're not deaf when such breaches are exposed. What more can we ask for without looking like the selfishly entitled minorities?

[Theodric]

They should have split the categories into male, female and androgynous styles...or given each gender two categories - one for short hair and another for long hair. I feel like that would have been the best compromise and appealed to a wider range of tastes.

[Greedalox]

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Precisely. You can't please everyone, and those that are displeased stomp their feet until either nobody is happy so they can tell everyone "I told you so" or make the flip side of the coin unhappy in their stead.

[Nadirah]

Ok constructive, in life you have winners and losers. Not everyone can win and not everyone can make what the dev team thinks are the top entries. This was your chance to influence their opinion. These posts are getting old and lame, there are several people just like you who feel wronged because they weren't chosen. Your collective are the thousands who entered who weren't selected. So like I said, there are winners and losers, this time you were not chosen as a winner. It happens, move on. You feel your work more deserving than others or that your idea of what should be put up to vote on wasn't picked.

AND in my opinion I thought they did a good job picking masculine, feminine, and gender neutral hairstyles for both male and female hairstyles.

Personally, I don't give a crap who got picked and who didn't.


My problem is that what *did* get picked is more of the same that we already have: Shitty accessories, boring ponytails, and overly fancy crap, and more stupid anime hair.

[KasKatta]

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Would not more diversity in the finalists have quieted those not pleased? It is true there is no possible way ANY selected 25 per category would have pleased everyone, but with a wider range, you're hitting more chances to cover a lot of tastes, and therefore pleasing the majority. I 100% agree that it's a contest, there's going to be happy people, and unhappy people, as well as those that are neutral. That's the nature of the contest. But even you yourself pointed out how a rule oversight allowed an entry that should not have had a final place make it through. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a bit of care in selecting such in the future.