Hair contest: petitioning

[DoctorSecksy]

I want to be "accepted" by being who I am and expressing myself clearly, thoughtfully, and honestly. I don't want to be "accepted" by not speaking up for myself, resigning to accept less, or by just "going with it and letting it be". That feels like oppression, to me.

[DawnSolaria]

I personally dont think its realistic to hope for a hair style tournament. The Rising event, which includes tons of easter eggs and tons of in game model for developers, only lasted for a week. Why would they spent months just to make one single hairstyle? And if this small of a contest can spark this kind of protest, then imagine one lasting for month and have tons more entries. You would have people complaining duplicate even more, plagiarism based on similarity. Basically everything in this thread but a new one for every single bracket...

[Glasya]

If SE aren't willing to remain impartial, are uncommitted to enforcing that impartiality, or aren't technologically competent enough to set up a discrete voting website for similar events within the finalfantasyxiv.com domain, they probably shouldn't bother with more competitions in future.
Saying, "show us your creativity" then picking a minuscule fraction of finalists (the approximate 1% mentioned above) from the massive pool of entries, displaying a significant degree of homogeneity, is only going to show that your grading system is flawed or that the examiners themselves are biased by their own tastes; and that will piss people off either way.

[DawnSolaria]

If SE aren't willing to remain impartial, are uncommitted to enforcing that impartiality, or aren't technologically competent enough to set up a discrete voting website for similar events within the finalfantasyxiv.com domain, they probably shouldn't bother with more competitions in future.
Saying, "show us your creativity" then picking a minuscule fraction of finalists (the approximate 1% mentioned above) from the massive pool of entries, displaying a significant degree of homogeneity, is only going to show that your grading system is flawed or that the examiners themselves are biased by their own tastes; and that will piss people off either way.

And would not bother with more competition in the future is exactly what they would do based on this event's feedback...

Before they did this event no one said a thing about in game hairstyle. Now an event to involve community earned them the title of "unfair". If i were the Devs i sure as hell would not want to hold another one.

I want more hair contest, but if we are going to start things like this every time i really dont think SE will be willing to do another.

[Glasya]

Before they did this event no one said a thing about in game hairstyle. Now an event to involve community earned them the title of "unfair".

Square Enix is the one at fault here for approaching the contest judging with such an unprofessional attitude.
Again, if they were uncommitted to policing the entries as stipulated by the guidelines and the contest boilerplate they absolutely should not have gone through with this event. The contest is a boondoggle; now a lot of people are mad, and it was caused by bias and incompetence.

If i were the Devs i sure as hell would not want to hold another one.

And you know what? If this is their attitude, I really hope they don't.

[KasKatta]

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Why does the contest have to be rushed? In any business or studio there is a constant flow of content-related work. Just because the Rising event only lasts a week for us, doesn't mean it lasts a week for them. The difference with the hairstyle contest is that they are letting us be a part of that production of the content. So, again I ask, what's so bad in conducting it in a different manner and cover as many bases as possible? More bases covered, less complaint and unrest. Covering bases requires time, sure. But nowhere is there a rule that limits a contest time-frame.

[DawnSolaria]

..... The difference with the hairstyle contest, is that they are letting us be a part of that production of the content. So, again I ask, what's so bad in conducting it in a different manner and cover as many bases as possible? More bases covered, less complaint and unrest. Covering bases requires time, sure. But nowhere is there a rule that limits a contest time-frame.

I seriously doubt there would be less complain. Most of the complain point in this thread is that choices lacks creativity and are similar to each other, issue like that would just be more common if they showed all of the entries. Moreover, imagine the chaos it would cause if people start claiming plagiarism on other people's work, just because it looks "similar" to theirs. For the sake of keeping this community in one piece, I hope they would never do something that chaotic.

[Adire]

I seriously doubt there would be less complain. Most of the complain point in this thread is that choices lacks creativity and are similar to each other, issue like that would just be more common if they showed all of the entries

So, you think more diversity in the voting pool would make people complain more about a lack of diversity....?

More entries means more options. More options means less reason to complain about a lack of options...

[DawnSolaria]

So, you think more diversity in the voting pool would make people complain more about a lack of diversity....?

More entries means more options. More options means less reason to complain about a lack of options...

I said nothing of lacking in diversity. If there are more entries shown then the likelihood of duplication or very similar hair style would increase, which is an already present problem in the current 25 choice voting.

[KasKatta]

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I personally don't understand how the chance for more diversity would lend for more complaint? I see what you mean with the chance to have similar styles, but look at it this way. Say, 17 people submit a variation on hairstyle A. The community, if given the chance to vote, would weed out 1, 2 or none of hairstyle A they like best. The way SE has the system now, is that all 17 of those variations would remain so long as it appealed to the mystery judges that selected them. This limits variety, and variety is good, as I've said before.

In relation to the plagiarized or similar concepts between people, again, refer to the weeding out reference above. If all the entries are posted at the same time, there's no way to legitimately plagiarize each other, and again, all similar styles will be selected or not selected based on community vote.