Why do Ninja and Monk use different gear?

[Colorful]

tell me why dragoons always get unique gears. design-wise and stats-wise. other jobs have to share their gear with other 2-3 jobs or sometimes palette-swapped version of each other's.

Always? Law gear is a pallete swap of all other melee gear iirc, Poetics is a palette swap of Monk, Alexander is pallette swap of Monk, ST is a palette swap of Monk and many other sets I assume. Don't remember Soldiery/CT/WoD, and Soldiery is no longer in Mor Dhona for me to check.

[AltanRapsied]

They may add samurai on mnk though...

[Velhart]

It would of made much more sense for NIN to fall under the MNK category. Putting DEX and a new set on them is very clearly tacked on. Question is, does SE just plan on adding even more gear sets for new jobs in the future? Is there going to be a 2nd job that uses scouting gear? Maybe it makes sense to SE, not me. If Samurai is a DPS job, will it go into the Maiming category with DRG or be it's entire own gear set, eventually cluttering raid gear with more and more sets making RNG much worse.

[Colorful]

It would of made much more sense for NIN to fall under the MNK category. Putting DEX and a new set on them is very clearly tacked on. Question is, does SE just plan on adding even more gear sets for new jobs in the future? Is there going to be a 2nd job that uses scouting gear? Maybe it makes sense to SE, not me. If Samurai is a DPS job, will it go into the Maiming category with DRG or be it's entire own gear set, eventually cluttering raid gear with more and more sets making RNG much worse.

Just switching everything to a token based system will solve it all, I really have no clue why they're not doing that with Void Ark.

[SendohJin]

They may add samurai on mnk though...

they should add SAM to DRG. combine MNK and NIN again.

yes, it would be ideal to have gear for every job but since the dev resources are not available, it makes sense visually to pair them up that way.

what i would like to see for shared gear with 3 new jobs.

WAR/DRK - heavy armor - like Binding Coil, Odin
PLD/RDM - plated robes - like Second Coil, CT, WoD
MNK/NIN - like CT
DRG/SAM - light armor, chain mail
BRD/MCH - vest, shirts
BLM/SMN - robes
WHM/AST - robes
SCH/ some healer - half gowns/robes

[Velhart]

Just switching everything to a token based system will solve it all, I really have no clue why they're not doing that with Void Ark.

It is a hard question to answer, but it is more rewarding to see the item you want drop as opposed to simply tokens or crafting material. An ideal set up is all of those drop from a boss, but yea. EC did a video on it once and does have me question how end game raid loot should be set up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxfkWZPAUg4

[Assirra]

I feel sorry for dex-user but rest assure,the next new dps job will be str-user or int-user.

Next dps HAS to be a mage in some way or form.
We got 2 magic dps vs how many physical now?

[Colorful]

Next dps HAS to be a mage in some way or form.
We got 2 magic dps vs how many physical now?

Well 6, but it's pretty unfair as physical DPS encompasses a much larger amount of potential classes than magic based ones from what I can tell, and ranged physical DPS plays more similarly to magic than melee does. Lack of positionals (I don't think ranged/magic have positionals?), etc. But if it's RDM, then yeah it's probably a magic melee class, and we don't have one of those currently.

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The only reason I can see item drops being more rewarding is because you've grinded the content again and again, and started to lose hope that it'll ever drop, but then it finally does drop and you're excited. That's from my personal experience anyway, but token systems are much more fulfilling, I can work towards something that involves no, or less RNG, and getting the item that way feels just as good to me.

[Caidyn]

Monk = Power/Force Your typical power-hitter archtype.
Ninja = Finesse/Speed Your typical "rogue" archtype.

Most MMOs and RPGs seem to follow these stat spreads for those
class types.

[RazeLandale]

Different amount of main stats. DRG gear have more def than MNK gear. This would mean keep the stats how they are and buff the monk with more def or change the stats and nerf DRG with less def.
Also different favourite 2nd stats.

It'd be fine to change the defense either direction, it's a fairly useless stat.

As for secondary stats like crit, det etc, it's not like SE caters to giving classes optimum secondary stats anyway. If anything they outright avoid it.