The Terrifying Attitude of Duty Finder

[Sapphic]

Out of all the dungeons I've ran the number of idiots I've met over them all are so small in number I could count it on one hand out of thousands of DFs.

Mayhaps bad attitudes are more prevelant on US data servers than EU ones.

[Attelia]

And then we wiped. Nobody said anything. We wiped again, because nobody was hitting the generator. And the complaining began, but nobody asked exactly what was happening or who should be activating the switch. They didn't bother to actually communicate; they just complained. That's when I realized that all the responses I got ware not meant to be humorous. The people speaking were just being rude. Even when someone finally did hit it, one player made a sarcastic remark along the lines of, "Wow, that was soooo difficult".

Really?

I'm not asking for a super-chatty run -- as a matter of fact, I think the amount of times we've had to grind the content in this game has made people less sociable during runs because they just want them to be over with -- but basic communication about why we're dying shouldn't be off-limits.

All behaviors listed in this thread are prevalent in WoW, except this one. Why are people in this game so tight-lipped about mechanics?? In WoW, if someone said they were new, you could at least expect a nominal breakdown of mechanics. Recently, I had a Dzamael run with a new tank. The healer elected to explain each fight with "Dodge" or "dodge the stupd (sic)." He was also the type to pull ahead of the tank, so maybe not the best example.

So how about them Steps of Faith? I fail to see how in a party of 7 people (and me, 50, doing it for MSQ) only one person actually knows about the mechanics of the fight. Any attempts to explain the fight are met with DEAD silence. People repeated the same mistakes with each wipe and we couldn't two-man the mechanics (because I suck qq).

I could probably write an essay about my (overwhelmingly negative) experiences in the Chrysalis.

This silence is really killing me. For all of the negative attitudes attributed to WoW players, you could typically find at least one person in a run to explain things for new people. You used to, anyway. I think MMO communities as a collective are shifting to the "screw noobs" "gogogogooog" attitudes.

[TooManyFishies]

I've noticed this behavior, but I think part of it is that I'm running more roulette dungeons now whereas, before Heavensward, I was sticking to doing a lot of CT runs where there were very few new players per run. Now there seem to be a lot more, and a lot less patience on the part of those who feel they're above explaining, but not above complaining.

You can't control how other people are going to respond, but I don't think it hurts to try and help if you can.

[KaijinRhada]

Funny enough, a tank in an A4 rage quit today and called the rest of the group scumbags after we pointed out he wasn't soaking orbs, not in a rude way either, just saying, "hey this just happened." Before that, I noticed he was having connection issues, which I figured was the case (and things happen). He then gets super defensive with it and proceeds to do nothing and eventually wipe us.

I honestly don't care if people are having bad connection issues being the reason for a wipe, I get it, it happens. People were just making an observation without much snark. It gets really annoying when people start to argue about it in the middle of an encounter. I mean, really, argue before the pull or after, not during the fight. I don't get into arguments like that, as it doesn't serve anything but to mess with the flow of the group. I just want people to do their damned job. Criticism happens, and it can suck, but I don't go out of my way to ruin it for everyone else. Apparently acting maturely is hard for some people.

[Sapphic]

This silence is really killing me. For all of the negative attitudes attributed to WoW players, you could typically find at least one person in a run to explain things for new people. You used to, anyway. I think MMO communities as a collective are shifting to the "screw noobs" "gogogogooog" attitudes.

Whereas I find it that some cases where you do explain or give tips that zero notice of what you wrote is taken anywho. There are plenty of players who play badly and are not receptive to any form of advice whatsoever which causes a knock on effect of making others think why bother trying to help when it just gets ignored anyways? Like the other day, a DRG in DF, not once did he use heavy thrust, I asked why he didn't use heavy thrust at all as it makes his damage higher. Zero response. Same with a BRD who never used his dots or Minuet throughout the whole run and zero response when asked about it. Get enough players like that in succession and the will to help falls.

If you had non receptive players for 10 DFs would you be willing to try it again with the 11th? Most won't.

Funny enough, a tank in an A4 rage quit today and called the rest of the group scumbags after we pointed out he wasn't soaking orbs, not in a rude way either, just saying, "hey this just happened." Before that, I noticed he was having connection issues, which I figured was the case (and things happen). He then gets super defensive with it and proceeds to do nothing and eventually wipe us.

I honestly don't care if people are having bad connection issues being the reason for a wipe, I get it, it happens. People were just making an observation without much snark. It gets really annoying when people start to argue about it in the middle of an encounter. I mean, really, argue before the pull or after, not during the fight. I don't get into arguments like that, as it doesn't serve anything but to mess with the flow of the group. I just want people to do their damned job. Criticism happens, and it can suck, but I don't go out of my way to ruin it for everyone else. Apparently acting maturely is hard for some people.

Some peoples Egos are oh so fragile.

[KaijinRhada]

Some peoples Egos are oh so fragile.

Indeed, fragile and massive as well. The drama feels like I'm being assaulted by hail some times. x_x

[LunaHoshino]

Out of all the dungeons I've ran the number of idiots I've met over them all are so small in number I could count it on one hand out of thousands of DFs.

Mayhaps bad attitudes are more prevelant on US data servers than EU ones.

I'm on an NA server, I run roulettes daily and I've had very, very few bad experiences, so no, I don't think so. Most people I encounter are either nice or just silent.

[Nicobo]

...Example 3: Went into Titan Ex solo and a Ninja told the Warrior to mark himself when he needed Goad. This was after the TP bar had been introduced to the party menu. Brought it up and he claimed he was going to be "too busy" to look at it. Really? This guy became so ridiculous with his attitude, I initiated a vote kick, to which met with a resounding hallelujah....

This exmaple3 reads like some other threads complaining "Kick Abuse needs stop!..etc" (by this nin) ^^;

[ErzaScarlet77]

i dont remember the last time i chatted during dungeon runs.
unless we wupe multiple times on a boss or something, i just wanna clear and gtfo

[UnstablePersonality]

Here is a story ...The Darkhold dungeon..second boss I lagged and failed to dodge so I sit there expecting a revive and got basically told by the healer to shove that revive up my ass and walk back, he later whined more and then got the tank killed and tried to blame me too.