Red Mage (Tank) Please!

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

But 14 is a Final Fantasy game and will be looked upon as such.

Of course they can make a workable tank kit and call it Red Mage. Of course DRK still has some identity, thats why I said worse, not as bad. And of course this isn't 11, Dark Knight and Red Mage were in a lot more FF games than that.

This whole making sense thing really doesn't. 2/3rd's of Red Mage is damage, the rest is healing. They will always make more sense as a DPS for that reason alone.

Just this reasoning alone shows how little you understand the tank meta, but moving on.

RDM is a perfect fit as tank, simply due to the way they've always been designed. The RDM has always been incredibly open ended design wise, so saying it can't be a tank because "reasons" is really silly.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Just this reasoning alone shows how little you understand the tank meta, but moving on.

RDM is a perfect fit as tank, simply due to the way they've always been designed. The RDM has always been incredibly open ended design wise, so saying it can't be a tank because "reasons" is really silly.

Which is what most people say. People think that a "healer+DPS" would work in this game, when it won't. Hybrids don't exist in FFXIV.

However, you can make classes fit in the game by designing them with roles in mind.

To make it a DPS would step on a lot of peoples toes and be too similar to what we have already.
To make it a Healer would "greatly" step on a lot of peoples toes and be too similar to what we have already.

Making it a caster tank however? No other tank is like that, it steps on nobodies toes and would be unique.

[Saggo]

the majority is asking for Red Mage.

We can't know that, but if I made an educated guess it's the opposite, considering both poll threads just created and the fact that census had DPS over the other roles combined.

Just this reasoning alone shows how little you understand the tank meta, but moving on.

That had nothing to do with tank meta, there was nothing to show, but thanks for feeling the need to put me down.

RDM is a perfect fit as tank, simply due to the way they've always been designed. The RDM has always been incredibly open ended design wise, so saying it can't be a tank because "reasons" is really silly.

Never said can't.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Saying that they can make a tank kit, but just slap a red mage name on it and it won't be a "proper" red mage is the very essence of saying that it can't be done, without out right stating it. It had to do with the tank meta in so far as it's "enough survivability to survive, put everythingelse in damage."

They can very easily put in red mage as a tank, while adhering to it's past incarnations. Whether they will or not is another question entirely.

[Intaki]

"Can" and "should" are not synonyms.

[Saggo]

Saying that they can make a tank kit, but just slap a red mage name on it and it won't be a "proper" red mage is the very essence of saying that it can't be done, without out right stating it.

That's not what can't means.

It had to do with the tank meta in so far as it's "enough survivability to survive, put everythingelse in damage."

Hardly what I said. Every Red Mage in Final Fantasy: a subset of Black Magic (Damage), a subset of White Magic (Not Damage), and decent melee weapons/armor (Damage). Red Mage is more DPS then it ever was Heal or Tank. Not open ended design, it's a set pattern. Defensive stuff were gimmicks in, really, just 11. That has nothing to do with how tanks survive.

If we're going to say what makes sense for Red Mage, it's not tanking.