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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurimi View Post
    How would SCH players complain about this when SCH itself didnt exist until after 2.0
    When I say launch I refer to the actual launch, not counting testing (bad habit from being a game developer). After alpha the ruleset was adjusted on which jobs could access which abilities. After the level lock was lifted in the later beta to allow for job leveling, SCH initially could not use cleric stance. It was not included in the ruleset. This means that, at some point, it was consciously left out upon ACN development. It was not left out due to ACN having it's own version, as this would have been calculated into the equation with the role shift. We can then deduce that, at one point, SE didn't view DPS potential as vital enough to develop said skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    When I say launch I refer to the actual launch, not counting testing (bad habit from being a game developer). After alpha the ruleset was adjusted on which jobs could access which abilities. After the level lock was lifted in the later beta to allow for job leveling, SCH initially could not use cleric stance. It was not included in the ruleset. This means that, at some point, it was consciously left out upon ACN development. It was not left out due to ACN having it's own version, as this would have been calculated into the equation with the role shift. We can then deduce that, at one point, SE didn't view DPS potential as vital enough to develop said skill.
    I am unsure as to where you received this information from however with the official launch having taken place on August 27th 2013 and posts debating clerics stance use on SCH stemming from as early as September 2nd with no mention of any changes to the ability in any patch notes between the 17th (Beta phase 4 and the first time Arcanist was playable) and the 2nd I find this doubtful at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurimi View Post
    I am unsure as to where you received this information from however with the official launch having taken place on August 27th 2013 and posts debating clerics stance use on SCH stemming from as early as September 2nd with no mention of any changes to the ability in any patch notes between the 17th (Beta phase 4 and the first time Arcanist was playable) and the 2nd I find this doubtful at best.
    If I recall, it wasn't in any patch. It was a little change they added in during a maintenance downtime sometime in early September or late August. I don't have my old screenshots (the SSD I played on back in beta died the next spring) but I was able to find this post that mentions the same thing I remember happening (so I know I'm not losing my mind).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delitia View Post
    You guys got cleric's stance after all your complaining, now stop complaining and learn to play your class, PROACTIVELY and stop trying to play like a white mage and you'll realize you're fine, you don't need more.
    If my memory is indeed not failing me (sucks getting old sometimes), we can assume the change occurred sometime between August 27th and August 31st.

    Anyways, (since the conversation has spun beyond my original intent) I merely stated it just to show that it's necessary for some classes to sacrifice more than others for the sake of balance, or at least pleasing people.
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