AST Sect Theory

[Apeiron]

I would kick any AST using noct stance if we already have a scholar. It's stupid and pointless. Just saying.

Kick? Instantly? Not even give them the chance to switch? That seems pretty unreasonable.

[FoxyAreku]

Kick? Instantly? Not even give them the chance to switch? That seems pretty unreasonable.

.....I'm just going to pretend that you didn't make such a ridiculous assumption and ignore your post. XD

[Apeiron]

I still don't see the point of a strategy that has two healing classes taking turns to use the same skill when said skills overwrite one another.

A WHM stacking regens with an AST? Sure. It's going to overheal like crazy if you AoE spam it and you'll be a little squishy from a lack of shields, but it's doable.

SCH and a Diurnal AST? Easy peasy. SCH's new burst ability helps cover for AST's lower healing, and AST's buff roulette is plenty helpful.

WHM and SCH? Old School.

WHM and Noct? Just fine. AST's ST burst healing and shields are plenty strong as long as its MP holds out, so keep feeding the AST the Ewer card and you should be just okay.

SCH and Noct? No. While the shields that AST and SCH are probably roughly equal, not being able to stack them means a lot of wasted MP, and AST can't burn MP like a SCH can. Much better to go Diurnal and pop regens.

This is assuming that the AST is being as proactive with their A. Benefic as the SCH is with their Adlo, which they shouldn't be according to this hypothesis. Originally, this strategy was put forward as a way to discuss how best to take advantage of the AST sects. With lower potencies, the hypothesis goes, an AST mirroring their co-healer would be capitalizing on the individual strengths of that healer (HoT, lots of single target healing). A WHM/AST(Di) would have their HoT stack, while providing the necessary quick Benefic/Cure to keep the party alive and handle mechanics accordingly. A SCH/AST(No) would have the SCH continue to be proactive with their shields, while the fairy and AST handle keeping party members well off. If for some reason the AST shields at the same time as the SCH, yes there may be a weaker shield (depending on who shielded first) but there would still be a shield, and some amount of damage would be mitigated.

.....I'm just going to pretend that you didn't make such a ridiculous assumption and ignore your post. XD

It's only a ridiculous assumption if you don't clarify. For all I know, you might be a jerk and insta-kick people. It's not all that ridiculous of an assumption when I have no working knowledge of who you are.

[Mercurias]

Let me dumb it down a little.

If you, as an AST, demand that I not use any shields after the opener while I'm playing my SCH, I'm going to laugh at you. You'd essentially be telling me not to do a pretty crucial part of my job because you want to, despite the fact that you can click a button and let us both do something beneficial to the group without overwriting one another and wasting MP.

That's kind of the end of the line. There is no tactic which would make a Noct sect anything but terrible to pair with a SCH, especially because you have Diurnal to use instead.

[FoxyAreku]

It's only a ridiculous assumption if you don't clarify. For all I know, you might be a jerk and insta-kick people. It's not all that ridiculous of an assumption when I have no working knowledge of who you are.

It was overall just a stupid thing to say. The simple fact that you think anyone would accept a vote kick as soon as an instance starts, or that anyone who plays this game is stupid enough to not give someone time to switch from an incorrect stance, is just mind baffling.

Like, you can't even kick someone in an instance until the instance has been going for 5 minutes, and that's plenty of time to switch. I thought that was common knowledge but I guess not XD.

Anyway, maybe think things through a bit more before you post next time. Sorry~