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    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    Just my opinion but I personally completely disagree on a B3 opener. I don't see the benefit for the time wasted
    IIRC the idea around it is so you have more mana at the end of your fire phase so you don't waste time waiting for a mana tick when you switch into your first ice phase. Not sure which is the bigger dps loss though, not enough time to work it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    IIRC the idea around it is so you have more mana at the end of your fire phase so you don't waste time waiting for a mana tick when you switch into your first ice phase. Not sure which is the bigger dps loss though, not enough time to work it out.

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    It made sense in 2.0 cause it gave us another F1.

    I guess if it works for you. Personally use the Sharpcast opener and never had the mana issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    1311 on A1S with no Ninja and 3 jumps . i201. figured out the secret :P
    I tend to agree with Harold on this one. It's an impressive parse for you no doubt, but it comes at the sacrifice of group dps. You're picking up the slack. But then again, whatever works for your group...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    Group DPS > Personal Stat Padding.
    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    I tend to agree with Harold on this one. It's an impressive parse for you no doubt, but it comes at the sacrifice of group dps. You're picking up the slack. But then again, whatever works for your group...

    It was a sell if you can't tell from the parse already, everyone was playing it super safe other than me and we had four people on their alts in il190-195 for a one chest run. We already had a 5:30 minute clear before. In fact, if this was a normal clear and we had two jumps like we normally do, this could have easily been a 1.4k+ parse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    It was a sell if you can't tell from the parse already, everyone was playing it super safe other than me and we had four people on their alts in il190-195 for a one chest run. We already had a 5:30 minute clear before. In fact, if this was a normal clear and we had two jumps like we normally do, this could have easily been a 1.4k+ parse.
    Ah, gotcha. It's better than I've done for sure. I'm usually blowing holes until after the first jump during the third set of adds. I struggle slightly with keeping my extremely high dps while moving the adds around and stuff, and my dps drops. I was like right at 1k this last Tuesday at i193. But I'm interested to see how it goes next reset, cause I got boots, belt + upgrade, and got Gordian ring so I'm i197 now.
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  6. #626
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    It made sense in 2.0 cause it gave us another F1.

    I guess if it works for you. Personally use the Sharpcast opener and never had the mana issue.
    As I said before, i've not had enough time to work it out, was just detailing the idea behind it. Whenever i've tried the sharpcast opener i've always been waiting for a mana tick when going into ice phase. That, and playing from EU makes some of the timing too tight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    It was a sell if you can't tell from the parse already, everyone was playing it super safe other than me and we had four people on their alts in il190-195 for a one chest run. We already had a 5:30 minute clear before. In fact, if this was a normal clear and we had two jumps like we normally do, this could have easily been a 1.4k+ parse.
    Put a link to the .act file then Regardless of a sell or not, your Bard DPS and other DPS was really not up to scratch - I really hope that other DPS was a MCH rather than a MNK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    Put a link to the .act file then Regardless of a sell or not, your Bard DPS and other DPS was really not up to scratch - I really hope that other DPS was a MCH rather than a MNK.
    As I said, the other DPS were both on alts. I don't know what you are trying to argue here, this is an i190 bard with no disembowel on a 3 jumps run. Monk had damage down debuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    As I said before, i've not had enough time to work it out, was just detailing the idea behind it. Whenever i've tried the sharpcast opener i've always been waiting for a mana tick when going into ice phase. That, and playing from EU makes some of the timing too tight.
    Hmm, that's odd. I end my rotation with a swiftcast > flare > convert > fire 4 > blizz 3 > T1 > Blizz 4 and never had to wait for a tick. If I have to move more than once during that opener, I can drop the thunder for time if I need. But I have to move at least 3 times for that to happen which is rare. It's the main advantage in the sharp opener, plus if you get firestarter from your fire 1 refresh, it's just as potent as the F4x6 opener. You might be ending your rotation different than me which might be why.
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    can someone help explain this to me

    today i purchased the I200 eso head piece and replaced my old i180

    and for some reason i cannot do my usual 6 fire IV opener anymore as i am short on mana to cast blizzard III

    and when i switch back to the old I180 head piece i can do the opener just fine
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