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  1. #91
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    Rina_Leonhart's Avatar
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    Rina Leonhart
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    They should drop the gear requirement maybe as well. I have my hands full just getting mats to my crafter friend. In order to help him out, I can't get my gear upgrades very quickly though, so I might be sol when the higher grade mats come out that will require the higher Gath/Perc. Also, even with the reduction to 5min for favors, I still feel like I am not even every able to play my bard with all the materials that need to be gathered. It's just too time consuming either way. I wish they would make the less wanted gear pieces you get with red scripts, blue scripts instead. Working full-time, I want to do my Botany stuff to the fullest, but I also want to play my Bard more too xD
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  2. #92
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    illyest's Avatar
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    Darkenvy Shadowsong
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 57
    All SE needs to do to fix 80% of the DOL/DOH problems is substantially increase the weekly cap for Red craft/gath scripts to 1K or so. That's enough where we'd more flexibility every week. I.E. get a piece of i180 gear, buy and farm a few stacks of favor AND craft i170 gear to use or sell. Right now its basically buy a i180 piece, farm a couple favors and you're done til reset. For me that's like two days...then waiting for 5 to repeat...NOT fun.

    The no DOL armor is the other 20%. Does it suck? Yes, but at least i'm making decent gil on gatherer materia SB to 100%, convert, sell, craft another, repeat.
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  3. #93
    Player LongsunZhao's Avatar
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    Longsun Zhao
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    They never listen. Don't know why we waste our breath posting. When its about something game breaking they don't care. Message about a minion or a spelling mistake and you get a reply. I'm leaving this game. Wanna ignore me after weeks and weeks of reporting problems. Fine. But I'm not paying for the game anymore. Its not worth its fee with crafting in such a mess.
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  4. #94
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    Mature's Avatar
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    Mature Rudlum
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    I wouldn't they they don't listen, they just a bit slow.

    And I fully agree with the OP. I would like to start crafting proper lvl60 2 stars gear BUT the colossal amount gathering and limited is stopping me. I don't remember being like this when we started with artisan gear at all. You only needed to do ixali quest to get the key mat but no wait for weeks and weeks to craft a piece.

    And at the same time I cannot gear my character with red scrip gear cause if I want to craft the ilvl170 one I will have to use the red scrips envelopes so I either do one or the other. It just doesn't feel right.

    The solution imo will be:

    Mats that you need for top gear need to be totally separated from red scrips. Get them from somewhere else.

    I nearly got all my 180 set for BSM from red scrips. But I cannot make or start selling anything because it's a right hustle getting the mats for everything else. I feel the whole thing a bit broken.
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  5. #95
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    Alahra's Avatar
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    Alahra Valkhir
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    I feel the whole thing a bit broken.
    It basically is, especially in regard to the DoW/M gear. While some of the other materials have been selling on my server, none of the spring water (or whatever it's called) necessary for the Grade 2 Dissolvents is being sold, which is yet another limit on the gear actually being produced. No one without ALC at 2-star level themselves or a geared ALC friend will have any means to make the gear. It's made worse when you consider that most folks will be spending scrips to gear at least three classes, which means we're still some time before a steady supply of materials makes its way into the economy. (Most serious crafters will gear more than three classes, too).

    The whole system is a mess.
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  6. #96
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    Tanthalas's Avatar
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    Tanth Alas
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Carpenter Lv 70
    I want to craft too. I want to gear up all the crafting jobs. even if I can only master 3 which im ok with. however crafting 1 item a week getting the hq mats or maybe 3 a week if I stick to the nq is rubbish. I might be ok with this if they took out the token requirement when trading for purified coke or odourless animal fat. I don't want to choose between crafted items and traded items I want to do both.dow/m have esoteric items alexander items and savage to gear up with. they can do all three in a week. whereas we can either craft 1-3 pieces in a week no retry if you don't get desired result(in alex you just pass on items you don't want) OR get I piece of tome gear (extreme example but mh tools take 3 weeks to get) so I cant get crafted gear. the itms I need sell on ah for around 600k each meaning itll take 9 million gil to even go that route. I don't have 9 millon gil. itd take me a week to make that which I could be using to cap tomes ect. im giving up on crafting. im gonna stick to gathering. sell favour items for ridiculous amounts(instead of gearing up my miner) and maybe come back to crafting if they fix it. but after all the complaints about it so far cant see it happening
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  7. #97
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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 70
    I feel sometimes that they did this in purpose so they make crafting more relevant in the long run. Cause kinda they must of known how long as how many pieces can be done a week.

    Tbh I would of been ok if all gear was shared between classes a bit like artisan
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  8. #98
    Player
    Alahra's Avatar
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    Alahra Valkhir
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    I feel sometimes that they did this in purpose so they make crafting more relevant in the long run. Cause kinda they must of known how long as how many pieces can be done a week.
    I don't really see how crafting's going to be relevant in the long term if we don't have any relevant recipes to make, though. At this point, we're probably going to be waiting until 3.2 (which probably won't be for another 4 to 5 months) before there's any hope of having relevant stuff, unless they come out of left field and give is i190 crafted gear in 3.1 and heavily increase the availability of materials for 2-star crafts.
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  9. #99
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    Sollux's Avatar
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    Ailandi Sensei
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 60
    OP's issues were the exact same issues I had on the release of the Red Scrips system and while it was implemented poorly and took far too long to tweak the recent change to Favors was a breath of fresh air and has had a HUGE impact on my own crafting progression. Where my previous average was anywhere from 1-3 items per Favor (Let's be honest, usually 2) my new average is at least 3, usually 4 per Favor.

    Immediately following the change to Favors I crafted 3 OHs and all 8 MHs that week. I spent 7 hours Saturday gathering 330 items to craft my last 5 MHs (Yes I bought some, I was tired, cut me some slack) and I didn't even mind since I KNEW it would have taken me 4x as long previously.

    I'm disappointed that I still have to do the thing I hate (Gathering) to do the thing I love (Crafting) but I'm hopeful that it will no longer feel like a full time job and I can see some progression each week.
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    Crafting is my Endgame, and I'm an Elitist.

  10. #100
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    Aeyis's Avatar
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    What I dont understand is why people focus on making the MHs when the OHs provide a far greater stats upgrade..and require less materials.
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