What makes WHM special? Nothing anymore.

[Kosmos992k]

Eh? Umm base healing and DPS between WHM and AST is exactly the same with most stuff gotten on the same levels with the exception of AST's ED is learned at level 4 and WHM's tetra is learned at 60 and Gravity is learned at 52 instead of 50 thus can't be used in 50 hard dungeons.

And I mean exactly the same, you get good at a WHM to 60 you can use all the same keybinds for AST's equivalent spells perfectly.

All very educational, but so what? I didn't mention any of that. I know as well as everyone else here does that in basic story content a fully leveled WHM or AST is perfectly viable and great for healing 4-man content, just as SCH is. I never suggested otherwise, so what's your point?

What I said relates to the look and feel, or flavor of the WHM job as you play it. But you know, I realize that there is very little point trying to discuss that aspect of anything in this game with people who can only see things in terms of the numbers and mechanics. In other words, we're not talking about the same things.

White Mages are asking: What's our Aetherflow and Pet? What's our Cards and Aspects? They get the back the answer Cure 3 and Assize.

This is an unsatisfactory answer.

Indeed, but the trouble is that most responses will start analyzing specific skill comparisons and end-game utility and not address the obvious issue you're referring to.

Oh, and don't forget that they took our wand and shield away and left us with a big stick to fight with...

My statement wasn't exclusive to raids. By "raid healing" I am referring to AE healing/getting multiple people healed up quickly.

You said raid, I responded appropriately.

So if you liked it then, there is no reason to not like it now. If you don't like it now, then it's not the class for you.

I played whm a lot in ARR and prefered it's playstyle over sch's by a lot. It's role in groups and its identity in general are exactly the same now as it was then, save two minor changes and 5 new tools to help do what we did before even better.

I disagree with your assessment and opinion, and I doubt we will agree.

[Eudyptes]

You said raid, I responded appropriately..

I said "raid healing". It's an actual term that has been in mmo's to describe AE healing since, well, that's what you need to heal entire raids.

I disagree with your assessment and opinion, and I doubt we will agree.

Ok. Keep your fingers in your ear and "say la la la whm has no identity" all you want then. Doesn't make my statement any less true.

To go further into this .. I'd also say that WHM is the most "simple" (and I don't mean easy, just less complicated, mainly) healer compared to SCH/AST.

I agree and not sure why I didn't think of it adding that myself. It's like how blm was in ARR (idk about now since my blm is only 51 atm). I enjoyed playing blm in ARR cause you could go into a raid and be less stressed because you got to focus more on the actual fight/mechanics rather than in-depth/complex rotations as well as the fight mechanics.