Ninja: Heaven-Sword (And Beyond)

[Allyrion]

it doesnt.
LB isnt affected by anything other than the raid weapon's ilvls.

I'm pretty sure LB is affected by TA, because it's affected by debuffs on the boss.
It's not affected by buffs on the party to calculate damage, but Vulnerability Up comes after that calculation when it hits the boss.

I've actually tried testing this before and it was consistently higher.
I would have to do it more to be completely conclusive, but I'm pretty sure NIN has the only ability that can buff the damage LB.

[Dante_V]

Silent adding absolutely nothing to the convo as usual. The most common and looked for progression setup is still DRG/NIN. Regardless of his opinion on the matter.

[MrCookTM]

I'm pretty sure LB is affected by TA, because it's affected by debuffs on the boss.
It's not affected by buffs on the party to calculate damage, but Vulnerability Up comes after that calculation when it hits the boss.

I've actually tried testing this before and it was consistently higher.
I would have to do it more to be completely conclusive, but I'm pretty sure NIN has the only ability that can buff the damage LB.

This has been tested into oblivion and TA does definitely not increase lb damage. As stated before, weapon ilvl of the group is really the only thing that affects it.

[Allyrion]

This has been tested into oblivion and TA does definitely not increase lb damage. As stated before, weapon ilvl of the group is really the only thing that affects it.

Really? I've seen others saying the same that their tests show an increase.
We know certain debuffs affect the LB. Ravana's Liberations makes him take more damage, for example.
I know for a fact Vulnerability DOWN reduces the LB's damage.

[MrCookTM]

Really? I've seen others saying the same that their tests show an increase.
We know certain debuffs affect the LB. Ravana's Liberations makes him take more damage, for example.
I know for a fact Vulnerability DOWN reduces the LB's damage.

Buffs/debuffs forced by the player/raid don't affect it. Just do further testing with a sample size as huge as possible and take the average. Lb damage fluctuates within a fixed range just as every other ability/skill in the game, so you'll need quite a large number of lb's to even that out.

[morerancor]

It would be nice if they made trickattack 5% if you failed to hit from rear. In pvp it is hard to use unless you want to stand in hide for a few minutes.

[Kaaisen]

Yeah still feeling like we're not competitive to others melee

And correct me if i'm wrong but, In 2.0, didn't the DRG looses their combo if they fail their positions? Then, in the same 2.0, they disable it , combo don't fail anymore, ang buffs too. Just DMG.

Why are ninjas still suffering of this position?

In A1S i place my trick attack just 2sec right before he turn to place his laser, but due to latency, he was already turned for the server, so no 10% for all the raid.

[Dervy]

Hi ninjas. I really should read the OP, but I've got a lot of stuff on my plate. Just need a very, very, quick yes/no.

Other than the introduction of Armour Crush, are there any substantial differences in the way the Ninja plays? If yes, I'll have to read OP, lmao.

[Alahra]

Hi ninjas. I really should read the OP, but I've got a lot of stuff on my plate. Just need a very, very, quick yes/no.

Other than the introduction of Armour Crush, are there any substantial differences in the way the Ninja plays? If yes, I'll have to read OP, lmao.

Nothing substantial at all. We have two new oGCD abilities, but it's not hard to figure out how to use either one.

[Viridiana]

Hi ninjas. I really should read the OP, but I've got a lot of stuff on my plate. Just need a very, very, quick yes/no.

Other than the introduction of Armour Crush, are there any substantial differences in the way the Ninja plays? If yes, I'll have to read OP, lmao.

Eh, I did a quick writeup of what I think is optimal Duality usage here. Other than that, it's just Armor Crush and a generic 300 potency oGCD. Lemme know if you need anything NIN related. I've been kinda lazy lately, but I still check forums/reddit/blog.