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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    As I mentioned, Dissipation has some strategic use if you are going to change fairies anyway, so the cost to re-summon with 3 fresh Aetherflow stacks, really? That is just nitpicking, and it doesn't jive with the statement that it costs more MP to use. The potency boost is mainly to be used with one of the tactical cooldowns and/or Adlo, if you aren't you aren't using the skill to it's full potential. 30 seconds. That is valuable MP gain for a DPS push.
    What tactic cooldowns? Dissi buff does not influence Indomitability or Lustrate. Do you mean Emergency Tactics - so a situational setup for a situational cd? Lol ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    No it's not, where are you getting that from? It's an instant cast, which is nice, but it's certainly not stronger.
    Yes it is. Raw potency including shield is higher and costs like 40% less MP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Yes it is. Raw potency including shield is higher at like 40% less MP.
    No it's not. It's close but it's not stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    No it's not. It's close but it's not stronger.
    Aspected Benefic is 250 Potency. Adjust this value for the 5% Healing bonus from Nocturnal Sect and floor for floor(250 * 1.05) = 262 Potency.

    Shield is now 130% of the healed amount. floor(262 * 1.3) = 340 Potency

    262 + 340 Potency = 602 Potency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Aspected Benefic is 250 Potency. Adjust this value for the 5% Healing bonus from Nocturnal Sect and floor for floor(250 * 1.05) = 262 Potency.

    Shield is now 130% of the healed amount. floor(262 * 1.3) = 340 Potency

    262 + 340 Potency = 602 Potency.
    Precisely. I thought it was 603.75, but whatever.

    Also, WAY cheaper MP wise. And instant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Aspected Benefic is 250 Potency. Adjust this value for the 5% Healing bonus from Nocturnal Sect and floor for floor(250 * 1.05) = 262 Potency.

    Shield is now 130% of the healed amount. floor(262 * 1.3) = 340 Potency

    262 + 340 Potency = 602 Potency.
    I'm testing them in game with the exact same gear, and adding 130% to my A.Bene's is about 100 healing~ less than doubling Adlo. If I'm doing my math wrong, then I'm wrong. But it seems to me that A.Bene is still weaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    I'm testing them in game with the exact same gear, and adding 130% to my A.Bene's is about 100 healing~ less than doubling Adlo. If I'm doing my math wrong, then I'm wrong. But it seems to me that A.Bene is still weaker.
    Healing is weaker. Shields are stronger. Total potency is higher.

    You might see a heal of 1000, but your shield on aspected benefic is now 1300.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall View Post
    Healing is weaker. Shields are stronger. Total potency is higher.

    You might see a heal of 1000, but your shield on aspected benefic is now 1300.
    Which was why I was adding 130% shield to it like I said...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    Which was why I was adding 130% shield to it like I said...
    Look...math is math. No two ways around it. If it is bugged, that is another matter entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    Which was why I was adding 130% shield to it like I said...
    With same ilvl, my ast does better shield than my scholar (non crit), and even more with synastry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    I'm testing them in game with the exact same gear, and adding 130% to my A.Bene's is about 100 healing~ less than doubling Adlo. If I'm doing my math wrong, then I'm wrong. But it seems to me that A.Bene is still weaker.
    If you heal at 1900 with aspected benefic, your shield is 1900 + 30%, not only 1900. It's definitely better than adlo, and you can add synastry 20% potency boost on this.
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