What does everyone think about those AST buffs?

[technole]

Because it costs you 2k to resummon.
Dissipation is only useful for Dps. The buff doesn't even make up for loss of fairy and doesn't apply to aetherflow heals.
It's bad. Excessively situational at best.

As I mentioned, Dissipation has some strategic use if you are going to change fairies anyway, so the cost to re-summon with 3 fresh Aetherflow stacks, really? That is just nitpicking, and it doesn't jive with the statement that it costs more MP to use. The potency boost is mainly to be used with one of the tactical cooldowns and/or Adlo, if you aren't you aren't using the skill to it's full potential. 30 seconds. That is valuable MP gain for a DPS push.

[Eudyptes]

Except Astro now has a stronger non crit Adlo

No it's not, where are you getting that from? It's an instant cast, which is nice, but it's certainly not stronger.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

As I mentioned, Dissipation has some strategic use if you are going to change fairies anyway, so the cost to re-summon with 3 fresh Aetherflow stacks, really? That is just nitpicking, and it doesn't jive with the statement that it costs more MP to use. The potency boost is mainly to be used with one of the tactical cooldowns and/or Adlo, if you aren't you aren't using the skill to it's full potential. 30 seconds. That is valuable MP gain for a DPS push.

What tactic cooldowns? Dissi buff does not influence Indomitability or Lustrate. Do you mean Emergency Tactics - so a situational setup for a situational cd? Lol ok.

No it's not, where are you getting that from? It's an instant cast, which is nice, but it's certainly not stronger.

Yes it is. Raw potency including shield is higher and costs like 40% less MP.

[Eudyptes]

Yes it is. Raw potency including shield is higher at like 40% less MP.

No it's not. It's close but it's not stronger.

[Lastelli]

Yes it is. Meaning you can choose to use a 573 potency shield on cd. Roughly ~critlo with 0 rng.

Wait, what? This is false. Synastry only works for direct healings. In aspected benefic case: 250 base potency*1.05 to account for Noct buff*1.2 for Synastry=315 potency. Then you compute 315*1.3=409.5, which is the potency of the shield. If you want to compute the total potency of the skill while Synastry is on, you just take this shield and add 315*1.4, for a total of 850 potency. Is it strong? Yes. Should you use it? Generally speaking, no, unless your tank will die without such a strong shield. As Aspected Benefic's shield component accounts for 57% of the total potency of the skill, using Aspected Benefic while Synastry is active means you're wasting Synastry because you're using Synastry primary effect only on a 315 potency spell. For comparison, using Benefic II with synastry is 1150 potency. Also critlo shield is around 900 potency (1350 total potency), even with your (wrong) numbers saying "Roughly ~critlo with 0 rng." is just...silly. Critlo shield is more than double the potency of noct AB with synastry when AB does not crit, 1.5 times better when AB does crit.

[Ghishlain]

No it's not. It's close but it's not stronger.

Aspected Benefic is 250 Potency. Adjust this value for the 5% Healing bonus from Nocturnal Sect and floor for floor(250 * 1.05) = 262 Potency.

Shield is now 130% of the healed amount. floor(262 * 1.3) = 340 Potency

262 + 340 Potency = 602 Potency.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Aspected Benefic is 250 Potency. Adjust this value for the 5% Healing bonus from Nocturnal Sect and floor for floor(250 * 1.05) = 262 Potency.

Shield is now 130% of the healed amount. floor(262 * 1.3) = 340 Potency

262 + 340 Potency = 602 Potency.

Precisely. I thought it was 603.75, but whatever.

Also, WAY cheaper MP wise. And instant.

[ckc22]

As I mentioned, Dissipation has some strategic use if you are going to change fairies anyway, so the cost to re-summon with 3 fresh Aetherflow stacks, really? That is just nitpicking, and it doesn't jive with the statement that it costs more MP to use. The potency boost is mainly to be used with one of the tactical cooldowns and/or Adlo, if you aren't you aren't using the skill to it's full potential. 30 seconds. That is valuable MP gain for a DPS push.

You said nothing different than my post. The facts are the same.

[TraeSnow]

Benefic has same Potency as Cure but costs less than Cure (MP Wise). I thought they wouldn't buff Benefic (and others) to the same potency as Cure/Physick. I feel like WHM might be pushed out soon.

I agree. What Astro's failed to realize was that their heals did have lower potency, but they also had lowered MP cost. Now they have same potency as WHM and still the same lowered MP cost.
Their MP cost needs to increased to match the potency that they can heal now. IE they need to match WHM.

[Eudyptes]

Aspected Benefic is 250 Potency. Adjust this value for the 5% Healing bonus from Nocturnal Sect and floor for floor(250 * 1.05) = 262 Potency.

Shield is now 130% of the healed amount. floor(262 * 1.3) = 340 Potency

262 + 340 Potency = 602 Potency.

I'm testing them in game with the exact same gear, and adding 130% to my A.Bene's is about 100 healing~ less than doubling Adlo. If I'm doing my math wrong, then I'm wrong. But it seems to me that A.Bene is still weaker.