What does everyone think about those AST buffs?

[Eudyptes]

Except Astro now has a stronger non crit Adlo

No it's not, where are you getting that from? It's an instant cast, which is nice, but it's certainly not stronger.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

As I mentioned, Dissipation has some strategic use if you are going to change fairies anyway, so the cost to re-summon with 3 fresh Aetherflow stacks, really? That is just nitpicking, and it doesn't jive with the statement that it costs more MP to use. The potency boost is mainly to be used with one of the tactical cooldowns and/or Adlo, if you aren't you aren't using the skill to it's full potential. 30 seconds. That is valuable MP gain for a DPS push.

What tactic cooldowns? Dissi buff does not influence Indomitability or Lustrate. Do you mean Emergency Tactics - so a situational setup for a situational cd? Lol ok.

No it's not, where are you getting that from? It's an instant cast, which is nice, but it's certainly not stronger.

Yes it is. Raw potency including shield is higher and costs like 40% less MP.

[Eudyptes]

Yes it is. Raw potency including shield is higher at like 40% less MP.

No it's not. It's close but it's not stronger.

[Ghishlain]

No it's not. It's close but it's not stronger.

Aspected Benefic is 250 Potency. Adjust this value for the 5% Healing bonus from Nocturnal Sect and floor for floor(250 * 1.05) = 262 Potency.

Shield is now 130% of the healed amount. floor(262 * 1.3) = 340 Potency

262 + 340 Potency = 602 Potency.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

Aspected Benefic is 250 Potency. Adjust this value for the 5% Healing bonus from Nocturnal Sect and floor for floor(250 * 1.05) = 262 Potency.

Shield is now 130% of the healed amount. floor(262 * 1.3) = 340 Potency

262 + 340 Potency = 602 Potency.

Precisely. I thought it was 603.75, but whatever.

Also, WAY cheaper MP wise. And instant.

[Eudyptes]

Aspected Benefic is 250 Potency. Adjust this value for the 5% Healing bonus from Nocturnal Sect and floor for floor(250 * 1.05) = 262 Potency.

Shield is now 130% of the healed amount. floor(262 * 1.3) = 340 Potency

262 + 340 Potency = 602 Potency.

I'm testing them in game with the exact same gear, and adding 130% to my A.Bene's is about 100 healing~ less than doubling Adlo. If I'm doing my math wrong, then I'm wrong. But it seems to me that A.Bene is still weaker.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

I'm testing them in game with the exact same gear, and adding 130% to my A.Bene's is about 100 healing~ less than doubling Adlo. If I'm doing my math wrong, then I'm wrong. But it seems to me that A.Bene is still weaker.

Healing is weaker. Shields are stronger. Total potency is higher.

You might see a heal of 1000, but your shield on aspected benefic is now 1300.

[Eudyptes]

Healing is weaker. Shields are stronger. Total potency is higher.

You might see a heal of 1000, but your shield on aspected benefic is now 1300.

Which was why I was adding 130% shield to it like I said...

[Khyan]

I'm testing them in game with the exact same gear, and adding 130% to my A.Bene's is about 100 healing~ less than doubling Adlo. If I'm doing my math wrong, then I'm wrong. But it seems to me that A.Bene is still weaker.

If you heal at 1900 with aspected benefic, your shield is 1900 + 30%, not only 1900. It's definitely better than adlo, and you can add synastry 20% potency boost on this.

[Ghishlain]

I'm testing them in game with the exact same gear, and adding 130% to my A.Bene's is about 100 healing~ less than doubling Adlo. If I'm doing my math wrong, then I'm wrong. But it seems to me that A.Bene is still weaker.

To be fair to you, no one has actually proven that abilities that state "Nocturnal Sect Potency = w/e" actually gets the boosted amount from the Sect bonus. It would make logical sense if it did, but this is S-E we're talking about here who can do weird things with their programming.

Does your AST have the exact same MND / DET / MD as your SCH? There could be a minor MND difference because different jobs and the weapon secondaries could affect your DET value. This could explain that 100 healing difference. Screenshot of your stats + heal amount would be nice to see too.

This has been something that's been itching at the back of mind for a little bit so it's something I was intend to test for a while but never got around to it. Now's better than never to prove something, lol.