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  1. #141
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    Assirra's Avatar
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gist View Post
    actually no, Aspected Helios still more mana efficient than Medica II given its 200 less cost for only 100 less potency and 5 less range, so it's still more powerful
    I take a better regen effect and range over 200 less mana any day of the week.
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  2. #142
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaj_Quilos View Post
    Scholar doesn't have mana management issues.
    Fun fact.

    Indomitability, Lustrate and Sacred Soil are not free. They cost MP as many as you would gain by using that Aetherflow stack for Energy Drain.
    We can have tons of mp, yes. By sacrificing our best tools.
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  3. #143
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DawnSolaria View Post
    Gist just stop, you are like the kid who goes to a birthday party and complain that the birthday boy's present is better than his own toy. No one likes that kid. Stop being a party pooper and rejoice in the glory of Astrologian.
    Except it's more like you came to our birthday party, stole a present, returned it and got an even better one.
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  4. #144
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    Dawn Solaria
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    And we don't know if Ast does either anymore since the potency/mp ratios of almost all your abilities were changed less than 3-4 hours ago.
    So the conclusion is that you are quitting based off of unknown. Some dedication to your class.
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  5. #145
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    Zaj Quilos
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    And we don't know if Ast does either anymore since the potency/mp ratios of almost all your abilities were changed less than 3-4 hours ago.
    Have you ever played an AST? If you are spamming Aspected Benefic in Nocturnal Stance your MP will drastically decrease quick.
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  6. #146
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    Claire Lihzeh
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    Ragnarok
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    My post says 263 potency. The shield is better because it has a potency of 341. Astro succor is better 100% of the time. It's instant cast and better than lustrate and doesn't cost a special resource.
    I don't understand why Lustrate costing an Aetherflow stack should mean it's not good. It's instant cast, yes, but's in gcd. Lustrate not. You can adlo+lustrate at the same time to cover an emergency situation. You have af stack, and you should use them if needed. You replace lustrates/ss/indom with energy only when heals are not really needed and a good scholar knows when he need to have stacks up. Over the fights af stack are a lot and a very reliable resource that astros doesn't have.
    Astro's heals are slightly better because of this: scholar can count on fairy and aetherflow. And better mp management means you can also count on more heals.
    Astro has only raw power now, and he needs it.
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  7. #147
    Player DawnSolaria's Avatar
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    Dawn Solaria
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    Except it's more like you came to our birthday party, stole a present, returned it and got an even better one.
    Except except that Ast was the poor kid whose parents never could afford a present, and a kind heart man name SE gift the gift of ON PARRRRRRRRRR. And now the rich kids on crying foul, becasue they are not used to the poor kid having good things.
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  8. #148
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaj_Quilos View Post
    Have you ever played an AST? If you are spamming Aspected Benefic in Nocturnal Stance your MP will drastically decrease quick.
    And if I "spam" adlo I'm going to have MP issues too. You people are acting like scholars don't have an mp bar or something, yeah we have good mp management, but it's not idiot proof.

    Quote Originally Posted by DawnSolaria View Post
    So the conclusion is that you are quitting based off of unknown. Some dedication to your class.
    The MP efficiency of astrologian has little to do with me. I can get everything I need to know from the potency changes.
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soyre_Monre View Post
    I don't understand why Lustrate costing an Aetherflow stack should mean it's not good. It's instant cast, yes, but's in gcd. Lustrate not. You can adlo+lustrate at the same time to cover an emergency situation. You have af stack, and you should use them if needed. You replace lustrates/ss/indom with energy only when heals are not really needed and a good scholar knows when he need to have stacks up. Over the fights af stack are a lot and a very reliable resource that astros doesn't have.
    Astro's heals are slightly better because of this: scholar can count on fairy and aetherflow. And better mp management means you can also count on more heals.
    Astro has only raw power now, and he needs it.
    I'm not saying its bad. I'm saying that it makes it more limited than aspect bene.
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  10. #150
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    And if I "spam" adlo I'm going to have MP issues too. You people are acting like scholars don't have an mp bar or something, yeah we have good mp management, but it's not idiot proof.



    The MP efficiency of astrologian has little to do with me. I can get everything I need to know from the potency changes.
    No but you do have a lot more control over your mana.
    As ast our mana regen falls into LA which is a long cd or praying to the gods that ewer comes at a right time or reserve it in a spread.
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