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    Quote Originally Posted by lordparanoia View Post
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    It's not hard to make something nasty happen with all of those buffs, it would be hard for any game developer to predict how that sort of thing would affect the balance of content. AST groups have the potential to put out some serious dps now with sustainable buffs like this. I think it will be okay now though. They managed to get all of the math they needed from the actual playerbase which is kind of silly given how we all basically beta tested this class, but look at the results! We're totally competitive now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mog77 View Post
    It's not hard to make something nasty happen with all of those buffs, it would be hard for any game developer to predict how that sort of thing would affect the balance of content. AST groups have the potential to put out some serious dps now with sustainable buffs like this. I think it will be okay now though. They managed to get all of the math they needed from the actual playerbase which is kind of silly given how we all basically beta tested this class, but look at the results! We're totally competitive now!
    They removed and solved some handicap Astrolgians had. How to say? For me AST still deserves more love. Because I don't like the fact that SCH is now Healer-DpsGod (just look at A2S) and WHM can solo-heal also the second worldwar.
    Square Enix maybe is just scared because they still don't know if players can abuse of Astrologian's abilities.
    That's what I don't like. AST deserve to be as OP as their colleagues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordparanoia View Post
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    Thing is, it was possible for astro to solo heal content already. I've seen astros solo heal ravana before like it was no big deal, we bring solid dps buffs to the entire raid along with mana and tp regen, these things are not to be overlooked. Think about having a 35 second enhanced arrow on yourself, and how that will affect the amount of healing you will be able to put out combined with synastry and solid healing or shielding, it's not to be underestimated. Or using that kind of logic, put that arrow on your white mage instead and twiddle your thumbs because his healing will go completely nuts, especially if he pops POM at the same time.

    tldr, we make everyone else overpowered just by rolling our cards and getting lucky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mog77 View Post
    Thing is, it was possible for astro to solo heal content already. I've seen astros solo heal ravana before like it was no big deal, we bring solid dps buffs to the entire raid along with mana and tp regen, these things are not to be overlooked. Think about having a 35 second enhanced arrow on yourself, and how that will affect the amount of healing you will be able to put out combined with synastry and solid healing or shielding, it's not to be underestimated. Or using that kind of logic, put that arrow on your white mage instead and twiddle your thumbs because his healing will go completely nuts, especially if he pops POM at the same time.

    tldr, we make everyone else overpowered just by rolling our cards and getting lucky.
    There is no healing in ravana. The real healing takes place in savage especially A3S and A4S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mog77 View Post
    Thing is, it was possible for astro to solo heal content already. I've seen astros solo heal ravana before like it was no big deal, we bring solid dps buffs to the entire raid along with mana and tp regen, these things are not to be overlooked. Think about having a 35 second enhanced arrow on yourself, and how that will affect the amount of healing you will be able to put out combined with synastry and solid healing or shielding, it's not to be underestimated. Or using that kind of logic, put that arrow on your white mage instead and twiddle your thumbs because his healing will go completely nuts, especially if he pops POM at the same time.

    tldr, we make everyone else overpowered just by rolling our cards and getting lucky.
    I don't think that we can consider Ravana Extreme something very hard to heal because it's a very easy fight with a small amount of HPS that must be provided to survive.
    I'm talking about A3S/A4S
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    No improvements to their Mana Regen... >.> Doesn't help that Shuffle will still probably give you the same card again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selli View Post
    No improvements to their Mana Regen... >.> Doesn't help that Shuffle will still probably give you the same card again.
    To be fair, CO's reduced cooldown means it can be used consistently with Luminiferous Aether. They both share 120s CD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcakesu View Post
    To be fair, CO's reduced cooldown means it can be used consistently with Luminiferous Aether. They both share 120s CD.
    I'm sure someone will do the math sooner or later, but I don't think the extra tick or two on LA every 120 seconds makes up for not having 10% total MP returned every 90 seconds like Assize... especially if Card RNGesus isn't on your side.

    I could be wrong, one could outweigh the other after xx amount of minutes (and of course the SpSpd threshold since I think SpSpd effects refresh skills the way it does HoTs). But looking at it now one tick of LA/Shroud (iirc) is 707 MP. Maybe 1,414 if you're lucky with an extra tick (I think the refresh is still every 3 seconds and CO only extends by 5). As opposed to a constant 10% total MP (lets say an even 1k from a 10k total MP pool) every 90 seconds. And I think if you actually got an Ewer every 5 Draws (since the odds are 1/5 after all), it would probably work in AST's favor pretty well. But I've had fights end without me getting a single Ewer on one than more occasion.

    Idk. I could be wrong. I'd be happy if I was wrong, but I personally don't feel like it'll significantly effect their MP regeneration.
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    Last edited by Selli; 08-25-2015 at 05:49 PM. Reason: It's 5am and I am sleepy and not making sense. XD

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    Nexas Uthenera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupcakesu View Post
    To be fair, CO's reduced cooldown means it can be used consistently with Luminiferous Aether. They both share 120s CD.
    So would macroing them together be a good idea or keep them seperate?
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    Just thought that we can now possibly get 1minute buffs with Extended Royal road?
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