Start working on your relics <3

[Xatsh]

Relics in 2.X were just no where near strong enough for the time required to obtain them that was my issue.

And as other said the life span of the relic after you spent that long obtaining it was extremely short.

I honestly expect the same thing in 3.X considering this expansion is basically a double down of the 2.X game systems.

I do not understand why anyone would waste time on a relic. If you are raiding get the raid weapons from the final turn (Use upgrade token weapons until then). IF you are not raiding just the get the token items and save yourself 100s of hours of time wasted and get the raid weapon once they mega nerf it when the new tier comes out. There is just no real reason to get them unless you are just extremely bored, and this is from someone who feels the game has too many handouts.

The time vs reward ratio is just too too low for relics.

Relics are basically Vanity weapon. A 100+hr long vanity item.

[Sylve]

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This right here is the problem with MMORPG players these days. In order to do *anything* within the game, you demand to be rewarded with only the very best items.
You're not interested in anything if it doesn't give you the "Best in Slot" rewards.

And then people wonder why devs don't make wider varieties of content.

[Amberyl]

This right here is the problem with MMORPG players these days. In order to do *anything* within the game, you demand to be rewarded with only the very best items.
You're not interested in anything if it doesn't give you the "Best in Slot" rewards.

And then people wonder why devs don't make wider varieties of content.

They bred that mentality with vertical progression. You reap what you sow.

[Colorful]

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Maybe because the content is designed around a progression system, or JRPGs/RPGs in general really. I don't get what your point is. This isn't "anything", it's a long and tedious grind for the sake of a decent weapon. It's not fun content, you expect people to waste hundreds of hours for the sake of a single glamour?


@Gunspec, they can't "mess up" the artifact system. If anything, it'll be easier to balance the content around those weapons specifically, and they know full well how to balance content as they've had over 10 years of experience now. Sure they mess up here and there, but something this major? I doubt it, especially when it's something as simple as balancing stats on a weapon. I don't see how that would make the game unplayable. The only thing it'll lack is weapon variety really, sure there are skins, but they all have the same base look, but that can be said for FFXIV as each class only has access to one weapon type with a few exceptions.

[Maaizr]

This right here is the problem with MMORPG players these days. In order to do *anything* within the game, you demand to be rewarded with only the very best items.
You're not interested in anything if it doesn't give you the "Best in Slot" rewards.

And then people wonder why devs don't make wider varieties of content.

(again)

[Reynhart]

Relics in 2.X were just no where near strong enough for the time required to obtain them that was my issue.

Yet Nexus and Zeta were BiS and far more people obtained them than people who cleared Second or Final Coil.

And as other said the life span of the relic after you spent that long obtaining it was extremely short.

I've done each step as they come and I've spent far more time using my relic than obtaining it. People are really exaggerating the time it takes for each step. "I've spent 6 month full time FATE farming for my 12 Atmas"...No, you didn't.

I do not understand why anyone would waste time on a relic.

I don't know...playing the game, maybe ? It's not like you won't do dungeons for everything else than relics, so why is it a problem to do both ?

The time vs reward ratio is just too too low for relics.

Your calculation is very wrong. You sound like each relic step would only help your relic progression, which is absolutely false.
By just doing my relic, I've been able to equip all my jobs with full Soldiery gear, then Poetics gear...things I would have done anyway.
I've spent a lot of gils on it, too...but seriously, there's nothing interesting to spent gils on, anyway...