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  1. #2261
    Player
    Amiaze's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Genevieve Mhakaracca
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    I went into Aurum Vale to level AST the other day. The tank was a little impatient and ran way ahead of the party in the first room, moving around a corner so that he broke my LoS and I couldn't heal him. As he was already near death, I stopped a little short to pull off a single heal and aggro'd two additional enemies.

    Insert wipe here. Comment from tank: "You okay, AST?"

    Yes, I'm okay. Just getting used to AST's lower potency is all. No biggie. It was probably my fault, there was more that I could have done on my part, right? The tank gives me some advice, which I immediately put to use. Admittedly, I'm still learning the class.

    Insert aggro problems here. Insert wipe here.

    After some struggle, we make it to the first boss. One DPS runs to the other side of the room, near the exit, far outside of healing range. My remaining fruit is too far away. I move in a little too close to save him and die. We wipe.

    Rather than try to blame a DPS for the wipe, I ask a question: "Can we switch fruit so that everyone's within healing range and I can more easily access fruit? Mine was gone."

    Comment from tank is berating and tells me to just "stand in the back" and don't get hit, and that there is fruit back there, even though I clearly said my fruit was gone.

    We switch fruit. We clear the boss. Insert sarcastic remark about my want to switch fruit locations for healing range.

    We continue on through the dungeon with some aggro complications.

    We proceed to the next boss. A DPS is killed by Coincounter. In my attempt to resurrect them, I am also killed. Insert tank's remark about "already accepting his death" before our second attempt.

    We defeat the final boss without a word said.


    My thoughts: Aurum Vale is always a hard dungeon when you're going through it with a new class, especially since your gear will likely be a little underleveled. In my experience, it is the first dungeon in which every party member has to consider their other party members or else mechanical issues will cause consistent wipes. A little mistake here or there is easily fixed when there are no bad attitudes or berating of party members.
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  2. #2262
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    Aika_Nakamura's Avatar
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    Character
    Aika Nakamura
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 51

    The Vault.

    The Vault with slightly undergeared people.

    Do I really need to say more?
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  3. #2263
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    NanaWiloh's Avatar
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    Character
    Nana Wiloh
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100

    My mistakes and Tunnel vision speed tank.

    My most recent story involves library of Gubal and tank still mostly wearing ilvl130 gear. Start off it was only my second run in this dungeon and I am still messing up here and there on the first boss. My first two deaths were my fault, getting too the point though, Tank starts chain pulling after the first boss. While tanking the pack he pulled my healing pulls a patrol he does not notice AT ALL. So I spend the next oh minute or so spam healing myself and him before he finally grabs it. After the trash is down and we are moving on he asks "Nana what happen to your mana?" I was I like really you didn't notice the pack that was kicking my ass? Next series of wipes come at the final boss. First wipe is caused when I die too a orb that is too close to a pad right as heal goes off on myself.
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  4. #2264
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    NanaWiloh's Avatar
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    Character
    Nana Wiloh
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Next I misplace a orb too close too a pad as I didnt notice the mark above me my head, on the next try pads come up I ran too the first pad I see tank standing next too it. I step on the pad and wait for him to press it as well, but he does not move and just stands there. Adds spawn and we end up dying, tank screams in chat why didn't I run too their pad when I was standing right next too him. Next thing I know I am vote kicked out of the dungeon, no loss on my end got most of the exp I needed out of it. Still said tank had tunnel vision and was trying to speed run a dungeon that he was not geared enough to speed run. He even went off at one point saying the dungeon should have been completed 20 minutes ago this was after I think the second wipe on the final boss. *face palm*
    I am not the best player in the world but going into a dungeon and complaining about others mistakes when your lesser geared then everyone all while tunnel visioning and trying to speed run. Does not make you better then the player who is making a couple of mistakes..
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 08-24-2015 at 02:38 AM.

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  6. #2265
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    WingsOfAzrael's Avatar
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    Character
    Emarial Artayu
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    so i did rav ex earlier with a healer that cleared except he didnt know what he was doing and he got hit by a ton of mechanics had like 4 vulnerability stacks the first time, party wiped, second time, then a smn forgot the mechanics to swift lib, wiped the party
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    Last edited by WingsOfAzrael; 08-24-2015 at 05:47 AM.

  7. #2266
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    Cygsiulle's Avatar
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    Character
    Cygsiulle Coure
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 54
    i'd have to go with a sastasha run. marauder tanks usually scare me at the low levs, but this 1 was definitely the worst i'd seen in awhile. first mob, just those 2 little bats, and i'm getting agro after my first heal. i figure i just started healing too soon, and try holding off, even letting my hp drop rather low to give him time to take agro back. by the time we reached the first jellyfish, i was worried and started watching him. he was only using his basic attack and buffs. that was it. i told him to try using his enmity skills, but he claimed that HE DIDN'T HAVE THEM YET! i was like, dude, i know you should have atleast 2 by now so use them. he didn't. i just said screw it, if i'm taking agro anyway, then i'll just heal tank this stuff, and started every fight with a medica spam and then focused on my own hp. for the entire dungeon... i really wish we had a little more room to work with in our roles/classes. a few more skills that we can use for other classes (like esuna and medica), and let people choose if they're gonna be a tank, healer, or dps instead of pigeon-holing us with these useless people that can't get anything right. a person that's bad at their job is one thing, but not even knowing what your class is capable of... that shouldn't happen. ever.
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  8. #2267
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    Mikedizzy's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Rain Arrows
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    So I was tanking Qarn on DKN for the 1st time (Can tank on Warrior and Paladin just now learning DKN though) and the Scholar proceeds to pull bees so I gather up the mobs and then he just doesn't heal me at all. I had a cool down running with Blood bath in Darkside and I still died. OMG I could not believe it. Then the monk tells the healer to pay attention jokingly and they say, "Well you are suppose to kill the bees first it is not my fault". The monk then told him that, "but the tank did not get one heal???" We all had a good laugh and then proceeded to roll the rest of the dungeon no problem but just a funny story...not a horror story but funny.
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    Server: BEHEMOTH
    FC: CASCADIA
    Playing since Beta phase 3

  9. #2268
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Character
    Akihiko Hoshie
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    horror story... maybe more frustrating story

    I was doing my expert, and played with an FC mate (bard)
    the tank a drk was a bit undergear but handle the tanking really well (Selene was able to heal him without problem, I only had to put a physic from time to time)
    The thing is that everytime I cast stoneskin and/or adlo to shield him before a pull... he jump or body pull a pack
    and I end up getting aggro

    during the whole instance he was safe, the DPs were safe, no one died...
    One moment I ran to get a chest and didn't saw that the tank did an half pull, so I end up with aggro (I'm a fat ass SCH...)

    I did understand that the tank didn't want to help me... (but bitch please, I'm a SCH, I can tank as much as him XD)

    then other DPS tell me sarcasticly than this is the tank that must go first...
    and I answer him with the same tone saying that Tank should wait for buff if they don't want to lose aggro while I cast.
    And I got kick out...
    I was shocked, frustrated... then laugh for 20 min when my FC mate tell me that they got an other heal that was worse and made them wipe 3 time on the final boss XD

    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Thornmarch the other day:

    (I explain the general mechanics - don't attack the king, kill the moogles in the order they're marked, BLM first, which tanks take what, etc. No questions or complaints, so I assume they get it. We wipe at the King.)
    Tank: What happened?

    [...]
    This one is priceless...
    thx I laugh so much XD
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  10. #2269
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    cgbspender's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Honinbo Dosaku
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 70
    People (read, tanks) used to quickrun from the very start a few months ago, now that they can cast their own protect, they do it even more , I often see them SPRINT, cast protect on themselves ONLY, and immediatly agro things without leaving us, healers, any time to cast on every player.

    As a consequence : I don't bother either. Whoever walks too much in aoe will die. Get blamed when that happens ? I don't mind, they may as well kick me out if they can't just wait 3 seconds for shields to be up. It's not like we have a long queue time anyway. And they're likely to wait for another healer longer than the time I spend in requeue myself.
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  11. #2270
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    technole's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Thea Sitori
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 72
    I should have caught this when we fell down the cliffs in the Aery. Was rolling my PLD in Aery, during Niahogg the SMN noticed the AST (in Noct stance, ok...) wasn't using Helios at all and calls him out to use it to AoE heal. Still was using Benefic II as much as possible. So the adds come, go to Sword Oath as usual to help DPS down the adds. Seeing everyone's health 20% or below the whole time, I'm sure they were focusing on Edstein, which is fine. These adds don't hurt much anyway. Ok in the bubble, no heals going out? Oh now here they come right when I'm going to pickup Niahogg at 15% HP in Shield now, hallowed ground maybe will get their attention? I have a macro. Ok we are all dead.

    Next pull, he somehow stands in the fire balls and dies. Why he likes to get up front with me is a question I didn't even want to ask.

    I was just too annoyed to give any more advice than what the SMN did, four pulls it took and it wasn't even the DPS that was the issue. Only a MNK left, and we got an instant NIN that did way higher DPS than him but they still once again only used Benefic I/II but this time they were more on-time during the adds. Sure that probably helped the AST out a bit in the damage department in pushing the boss further, it still was manageable though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikedizzy View Post
    So I was tanking Qarn on DKN for the 1st time (Can tank on Warrior and Paladin just now learning DKN though) and the Scholar proceeds to pull bees so I gather up the mobs and then he just doesn't heal me at all. I had a cool down running with Blood bath in Darkside and I still died. OMG I could not believe it.
    Yeah, many probably didn't know about being full HP for them bees. I've gotten so used to slow DPS on them in pug roulettes that I just pop a cooldown (Shadowskin) when I see Final Sting casting to live. Next time if I ever get that dungeon I'm just going to take off grit, use blood sword on those because it happens almost everytime even if you mark, say kill the bees first, etc. Don't worry I'll use a CD like bloodbath xD.
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    Last edited by technole; 08-25-2015 at 03:25 AM.

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