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    Player
    Rydiah's Avatar
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    Sypha Belnades
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by sarehptar View Post
    I felt terrible, thinking maybe I just wasn't healing as well as I should be and that it was somehow me causing the problems...
    You're not alone there! Even if I know a wipe isn't my fault, I still feel bad and blame myself...I've been healing the Vault a lot on my AST too. It usually goes well, but if nobody is paying attention to mechanics its horrible.

    I have another story from last night. I've been running WoD a lot with my friend lately. I'm STILL trying to get Puff of Darkness and he's going for the Onion Knight card. Usually these runs are pretty painful, I guess a lot of new people are running them or something? Anyways, last night my co healer was another WHM. It was awful. She liked to cast Medica II before every pull...in Cleric Stance. Yea, she stayed in Cleric Stance the whole time, which I would have been ok with if she was doing any DPS. I'd see the occasional Stone II, then she'd continue healing like that. I don't even know if she used anything besides Medica II, I think I saw one Regen that wasn't mine, and I'm pretty sure it was from another alliance's healer. I also had to raise her at least twice every boss, because she liked to stand behind the tank. I don't even think she was a troll, just genuinely horrible at WHM. Oh, and for the first time I died to 150 Death because nobody left the circle, yay!

    I thought healers like this were a myth!
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    Exilon's Avatar
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    Ayumi Lustonia
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by Rydiah;3263252wa
    I thought healers like this were a myth!
    I once ran CT with another sch who throughout the entire run only used CURE of all things, very rarely one or two alds and then wait for it... shadow flare. That's ALL he used throughout the entire raid. Good thing I usually go into those assuming I'll be solo healing XD
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Pomelo Melo
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    Thaumaturge Lv 51
    Thornmarch the other day:

    (I explain the general mechanics - don't attack the king, kill the moogles in the order they're marked, BLM first, which tanks take what, etc. No questions or complaints, so I assume they get it. We wipe at the King.)
    Tank: What happened?
    Me: King took too much damage. You're not supposed to attack him until the moogles are dead.
    Tank: Why?
    Me: Because if too many moogles are left alive, we wipe. We need to kill the moogles in the order they're marked first.
    Tank: Why?
    Me: Because otherwise we'll wipe.
    Tank: Why?
    Me: Because their AoEs are high damage.
    DPS: Which one is the King?
    Me: The big fat one we were just fighting.
    DPS2: What order do we kill them in?
    Me: ...the order they're marked.
    DPS: So that's why we wiped, because we killed the BLM first.
    Me: No, that's what you're supposed to do.
    Tank: Why?
    Me: Because his attacks deal a lot of damage.
    DPS: But the BLM is marked 'one.'
    Me: Yes?
    DPS: So we go in reverse order?
    Me: No?!
    Tank: Why do I tank the King?
    Me:
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    Last edited by Lunaxia; 08-22-2015 at 10:58 PM.

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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    horror story... maybe more frustrating story

    I was doing my expert, and played with an FC mate (bard)
    the tank a drk was a bit undergear but handle the tanking really well (Selene was able to heal him without problem, I only had to put a physic from time to time)
    The thing is that everytime I cast stoneskin and/or adlo to shield him before a pull... he jump or body pull a pack
    and I end up getting aggro

    during the whole instance he was safe, the DPs were safe, no one died...
    One moment I ran to get a chest and didn't saw that the tank did an half pull, so I end up with aggro (I'm a fat ass SCH...)

    I did understand that the tank didn't want to help me... (but bitch please, I'm a SCH, I can tank as much as him XD)

    then other DPS tell me sarcasticly than this is the tank that must go first...
    and I answer him with the same tone saying that Tank should wait for buff if they don't want to lose aggro while I cast.
    And I got kick out...
    I was shocked, frustrated... then laugh for 20 min when my FC mate tell me that they got an other heal that was worse and made them wipe 3 time on the final boss XD

    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Thornmarch the other day:

    (I explain the general mechanics - don't attack the king, kill the moogles in the order they're marked, BLM first, which tanks take what, etc. No questions or complaints, so I assume they get it. We wipe at the King.)
    Tank: What happened?

    [...]
    This one is priceless...
    thx I laugh so much XD
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    Saseal's Avatar
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    Saseal Korei
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    Coeurl
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    Thornmarch the other day:

    Me:
    Priceless xD
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    AzzieMusical's Avatar
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    Minako Arisato
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 28
    Quote Originally Posted by SwordswornFox View Post
    Well most of my healing horror stories are all about me trying to heal Titan as an AST.
    I'm the same when it comes to Titan, though this is on my WHM. I've only ran him twice, and both times were awful.

    The first time;

    * I was already nervous.
    * I got hit by two landslides, despite running the second I saw it.
    * My entire family decided to come in and talk to me, ask me questions, and prod me despite me asking very nicely if they could just give me five minutes.
    * They did not.
    * I was too distracted. Got knocked off around two or three times.
    * I was so angry at myself, I apologised profusely to the party, and quit.

    The second time;

    * I was nervous again.
    * Me and Tank got knocked off.
    * Ran out of MP.
    * Luckily had a kind Bard who helped me.
    * Bard died just before the end.

    Sigh. I'm afraid to run it again. Brayflox was kinder to me.
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzzieMusical View Post
    I'm the same when it comes to Titan, though this is on my WHM. I've only ran him twice, and both times were awful.

    The first time;

    * I was already nervous.
    * I got hit by two landslides, despite running the second I saw it.
    * My entire family decided to come in and talk to me, ask me questions, and prod me despite me asking very nicely if they could just give me five minutes.
    * They did not.
    * I was too distracted. Got knocked off around two or three times.
    * I was so angry at myself, I apologised profusely to the party, and quit.

    The second time;

    * I was nervous again.
    * Me and Tank got knocked off.
    * Ran out of MP.
    * Luckily had a kind Bard who helped me.
    * Bard died just before the end.

    Sigh. I'm afraid to run it again. Brayflox was kinder to me.
    The more times you run it, the better you get. Whenever I suck at a trial/ dungeon, I run it over and over until I'm better than most, lol.

    I'm a WHM too and used to be the same with Titan - my first run ever, I was knocked off within the first 30 seconds and an Arcanist carried everyone through to the end while I lay there... the shame.

    Now, even on the harder versions I breeze through it with barely any effort. Most of the trouble comes from the DPS who regularly get caught by the bombs and WoLs.
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AzzieMusical View Post
    I'm the same when it comes to Titan, though this is on my WHM. I've only ran him twice, and both times were awful.
    Titan is fine once you get used to his animations. Landslide especially is really slow he does this slow turn before he does it so you can move away when he faces somebody. He'll crouch with his hands together like he's doing squats when WotL is coming up. He also does the exact same attack rotation every time so you just learn what comes in what order eventually.
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    AzzieMusical's Avatar
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    Minako Arisato
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 28
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    The more times you run it, the better you get. Whenever I suck at a trial/ dungeon, I run it over and over until I'm better than most, lol.

    I'm a WHM too and used to be the same with Titan - my first run ever, I was knocked off within the first 30 seconds and an Arcanist carried everyone through to the end while I lay there... the shame.

    Now, even on the harder versions I breeze through it with barely any effort. Most of the trouble comes from the DPS who regularly get caught by the bombs and WoLs.
    Thanks for the advice! I know I need to do it again until I can do it well... but I'm so nervous! I was the same with Brayflox, I had a couple of bad runs to start with, but now it's one of my favourite dungeons.

    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post
    Titan is fine once you get used to his animations. Landslide especially is really slow he does this slow turn before he does it so you can move away when he faces somebody. He'll crouch with his hands together like he's doing squats when WotL is coming up. He also does the exact same attack rotation every time so you just learn what comes in what order eventually.
    Thank you for the advice! I need to face him again and learn these little tics. I think my nerves got the better of me both times.
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    Amiaze's Avatar
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    Genevieve Mhakaracca
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    I went into Aurum Vale to level AST the other day. The tank was a little impatient and ran way ahead of the party in the first room, moving around a corner so that he broke my LoS and I couldn't heal him. As he was already near death, I stopped a little short to pull off a single heal and aggro'd two additional enemies.

    Insert wipe here. Comment from tank: "You okay, AST?"

    Yes, I'm okay. Just getting used to AST's lower potency is all. No biggie. It was probably my fault, there was more that I could have done on my part, right? The tank gives me some advice, which I immediately put to use. Admittedly, I'm still learning the class.

    Insert aggro problems here. Insert wipe here.

    After some struggle, we make it to the first boss. One DPS runs to the other side of the room, near the exit, far outside of healing range. My remaining fruit is too far away. I move in a little too close to save him and die. We wipe.

    Rather than try to blame a DPS for the wipe, I ask a question: "Can we switch fruit so that everyone's within healing range and I can more easily access fruit? Mine was gone."

    Comment from tank is berating and tells me to just "stand in the back" and don't get hit, and that there is fruit back there, even though I clearly said my fruit was gone.

    We switch fruit. We clear the boss. Insert sarcastic remark about my want to switch fruit locations for healing range.

    We continue on through the dungeon with some aggro complications.

    We proceed to the next boss. A DPS is killed by Coincounter. In my attempt to resurrect them, I am also killed. Insert tank's remark about "already accepting his death" before our second attempt.

    We defeat the final boss without a word said.


    My thoughts: Aurum Vale is always a hard dungeon when you're going through it with a new class, especially since your gear will likely be a little underleveled. In my experience, it is the first dungeon in which every party member has to consider their other party members or else mechanical issues will cause consistent wipes. A little mistake here or there is easily fixed when there are no bad attitudes or berating of party members.
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