Adventurers having entered Alexander: Gordias

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

FFXIV was and is a casual gamer. SE added more "Hardcore" playstyle or grind and players gave up easily..

SOME players gave up easily, and unfortunately those players are nerfing the enjoyment from other folks. I saw quite a few people with Zeta weapons, so not EVERYONE gave up. And at least 20% of the people at endgame are at least attempting savage mode. There ARE a decent chunk of people that would like content that is not steamrolled!

[rappa]

Yeah, i am those who killed alex 3 savage and i see disbands, great teams lose players and search replacements.

[Yshnal]

SOME players gave up easily, and unfortunately those players are nerfing the enjoyment from other folks. I saw quite a few people with Zeta weapons, so not EVERYONE gave up. And at least 20% of the people at endgame are at least attempting savage mode. There ARE a decent chunk of people that would like content that is not steamrolled!

Since when having a Zeta meant anything when talking about "steamrolled content"? All it was was a huge gil and time sink, nothing else.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

Since when having a Zeta meant anything when talking about "steamrolled content"? All it was was a huge gil and time sink, nothing else.

You might want to reread what the person I quoted said. :/

[Yshnal]

You might want to reread what the person I quoted said. :/

Yeah, I should have explained myself better, sorry. What I mean is that most people did that without having fun, because they wanted the weapon or simply because there was nothing else for them to do. It was not difficult, it was boring, and those that gave up did that simply because they weren't interested in neither the weapon nor grinding just for the sake of doing so.

In other words, a % of the playerbase doesn't like to do boring or frustrating content (let's not confuse hard with frustratting, please). They want to play the game and have fun, and that's why you see a huge percentage of the playerbase that didn't finish their relic, nor do the hardest raids. Moreover, I can assure you that quite some of the people that finished Coil did that because of the story (because of its ties with 1.x), and they won't do the same with Alexander Savage.

I hope that I cleared it up a bit :P

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

What I mean is that most people did that without having fun, because they wanted the weapon or simply because there was nothing else for them to do.

Exactly my point, people that didn't have anything else to do, could work on relic. That was the whole reason they put it in the game. God help us if they nerfed the 3.1 relic. We already got esoteric weapon for the people that don't have a lot of time to play or simply don't give a ****.

[Yshnal]

Exactly my point, people that didn't have anything else to do, could work on relic. That was the whole reason they put it in the game. God help us if they nerf the 3.0 relic. We already got esoteric weapon for the people that don't have a lot of time to play or simply don't give a ****.

There was nothing else to do because some of them just focused in a single part of the game or two. It was not a compliment for neither the people nor the content, and note that I don't have anything against that kind of mindset, but I'm against boring grinds and do-it-just-because content. I got my Excalibur because I wanted that weapon, but you can be damn sure that I didn't have fun and that it did burn me a little of the game, even by taking it slowly. I would have prefered to get it some other way.

I want fun things, which includes actually hard content, not that "memorize this pattern and don't miss a single thing for 0.01 seconds or you'll wipe your whole party" that we get sometimes, nor the whole "grind for 130817893719283 hours and/or waste 200M of gil" (I did that already back in the time in other MMOs) that we get even for the most trivial things like TT or chocobo racing. There's plenty of content to choose right now, so there's no need for these stupid grinds. Make things fun and (more) people will play them.