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  1. #31
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    Gameplay >>>>> Realistic


    FFXIV flop because it's tried to be too much realistic
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    <STORYTYME>For all you people who are like "YAY INSTA AIRSHIP RIDE DURP LETS DO IT TO THE FERRY" I have news flash for you. There is a thing called anima. There doesn't have to be a time paradox going on or bending reality or whatever you would call it(I know its a game a fantasy game, but there still has to be some laws of nature). If you want something instant please use the anima SE gave you, if you don't have 1-5mins to spare(just guessing how long it would take to ride the airship). This is just silly, I don't even know how you guys think. If you could enlighten me on your ways, I would be in much appreciation. THE END </STORYTYME>
    I don't understand why people even play MMO anymore i thought the reason is to kill time. But now it to save time? how does that even make sense. We never going to enjoy the airship due to everyone telling us to skip it just like you said.

    People don't get it that there most be a time sink in a game or people would get bored when they get everything done with a small amount of time and there noting to do. The NM they added sure low drop rate i still got all the item within 30min of fighting them at level 36 pug and a 36 conj. The only one i'm still missing is the dam belt from the boar lol.

    Anyways every game had a time sink look at wow it take a long time to get max level and the 1month of played i go ya this more casual then FFXI but it still bored the hell out of me due to only having, Quest,dungeon,PVP that it o.o

    people forget without time sink you going to ask for more stuff to do and SE can't keep up they need to learn that you can't make everyone happy. I'll wait to this goes p2p for the real great minded people stay if it still stay with people wanting everything done asap then i guess i'll deal with it.
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    With the way content is spooling out I expect players to be givin jetpacks and be able to warp to any <pos> on the map at any givin time because doing it any other way is a waste of mine and other peoples time.

    the "Give it to me now" mentality will ruin us, christ I remember getting access the airships in XI was a downright right of passage for your ingame experience, until you hit that point in the game you damn well walked wherever you needed to go. You earned your chocobo, you earned your airship, you earned your teleport and warp spells.

    You were rewarded with better means of transport when you sacrificed your time or effort or resources to obtaining them.

    Everyone is so entitled I will be suprised if there is anything worth earning in this game when all is said and done. It's all about "My time" and not about the adventure, it's not about the reward anymore. It's not about reaching rank 30 and saying "**** Yeah! I can finally go do my quest and get the airship pass! Going to the other cities will be a breeze now!"

    It's. I WANT IT NOW!

    So please allow me a bit of displeasure at the system even if your a supporter of it, at the end of the day what is the point of playing if their is nothing to earn, nothing to acheive. Hell the most we have right now is being able to enter the darkhold once you hit 45...yay.
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  4. #34
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    Jynx, we aren't asking to have the airship be accessible like nothing. They already said that there will be a quest for the chocobos and there will probably be one for the airships. The rite of passage thing is a valid concern, but it's not the topic at hand.

    What we want is just to continue to be able to use the quick airship travel as an option once they implement the full airship ride. Yes the airship was special the first time we rode it in FF11, but after the 10th time or so it gets old and most of us would end up just AFK on it. We would rather not waste our time waiting around for the ride if we don't want to, and since its an option people that want to enjoy the view will still be able to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocko View Post
    I think you're forgetting that a large number of people are of the opinion that anima should be nixed. Just saiyan
    Anima will never be nixed unless some other limitation is added in its place.

    You know, when I played the very first alpha version, i thought that the teleport option in the menu was simply there to facilitate testing (at that time, it was unlimited, as well) and that we were going to use spells, airships, chocobos, etc. to teleport. Then they put in anima and it hit me "they're making instant teleport from the menu permanent. WTF?"

    i knew right then and there that people would immediately want to instantly transport anywhere and that other forms of transport would automatically be slower and underutilized, and that if teleport was ever later taken away in its current form, the spoiled playerbase would rage and backlash.
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    You guys it breaks all logic, How can there be one boat that like splits in two and goes faster then one and the other goes normal speed that gets there 3mins later id onteven know!!!!! My head is gone. you have to make things make sense kinda like what i just wrote! RIGHT!
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    Anima is for Instant Teleport
    Airship is for battle or quest in mid air ! (I hope that lol)
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  8. #38
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    Don't think anyone brought up the issue of whether if it is necessary in design to even have an interactive duration for an airship ride. Whether if it has a duration for the ride or not should be as large of a concern oppose to what you can do on the ride itself.

    Take a look at FFXI's airship, at best they had a repeatable quest where you return a lost package there. Only other event is during the Lunar New Year they have the old man there giving out scroll. Other than that, I do not recall any particular reason one would want to wander about the airship besides for sightseeing, or dicking around (running off the airship's ledge).

    Or examine the activities you can partake on FFXIV's ferry right now. You can fish, craft, or just wander about and sit on a bench while riding a ferry. During the firefall event you could have shot a firework off the ferry.

    The last thing I want to see happen to the airship ride is just eye-candy so people can have their 5 minutes awe by gazing at the vista, and then don't give half a rats ass about it for the next 10 years. If you don't think that would be the case just ride an FFXI airship now and see how many people actually wanders about on it.

    If they wanted longevity and actual immersion for people riding the airships or ferries they would have adding some activities for the ferries by now. Such as why isn't there any other NPC besides the captain to talk to? What happened to the chaotic seas on the Limsa's opening scenes? Why isn't there a single boat out there as you are nearing Limsa, considering that Limsa's a port city? What you imagine riding a boat to Limsa should be just isn't there. Honestly, I am not given a sense of any sort of life while riding the ferry.

    The only reason I can think of as to why it is so empty is because their only main focus is just to give people another mode of transportation. And what I fear is that this most likely what is going to become of the airship ride duration as well.
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    Last edited by lackofwords; 09-07-2011 at 05:57 PM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokien View Post
    <STORYTYME>For all you people who are like "YAY INSTA AIRSHIP RIDE DURP LETS DO IT TO THE FERRY" I have news flash for you. There is a thing called anima. There doesn't have to be a time paradox going on or bending reality or whatever you would call it(I know its a game a fantasy game, but there still has to be some laws of nature). If you want something instant please use the anima SE gave you, if you don't have 1-5mins to spare(just guessing how long it would take to ride the airship). This is just silly, I don't even know how you guys think. If you could enlighten me on your ways, I would be in much appreciation. THE END </STORYTYME>
    How long did it take you, after reading Tony Montana's thread on this same topic, to attempt turtlebacking off his view on this topic?

    People will always have their own personal opinions about the future of FFXIV. Despite your sarcastic rendition of this topic which seems to be currently "DURP", you are re-iterating useless garbage to the masses.

    ALL YOU/THEY NEED TO KNOW IS:

    1) The Instant Transportation for Airships is temporarily the only option at feature launch (Patch 1.19).

    2) YoshiP and Devs have already solidified that there will be future adjustments which will make available the option to have a scenic and interactive Airship ride. This is in keeping with their new philosophy that the players should have the say-so in regards to how THEY PERSONALLY experience their game. NOT how Rokien of Lindblum Server would want them to experience THEIR gameplay.

    3) Furthermore, the Airship is being pushed not because NO OTHER METHOD OF TRANSPOARTATIONS EXISTS, but because Airships in FF Series is iconic to the series themata.

    Futile logic doesn't a good thread make

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    Last edited by AreeyaJaidee; 09-07-2011 at 06:07 PM.
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    I play a game for fun and excitement not to sit there and waste 20 of my precious minutes.

    But hey, those of those of you who soooo love to waste your time, will have your option, so shut up already, there's no debate here, there will be an option for everyone.
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