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    Quote Originally Posted by LaurelinKementari View Post
    Good to know that after killing a few primals you consider yourself too good to help a friend make something nice for another friend who just basically came back from death. Arrogant much? Stay humble and help your fellow man even with menial daily tasks, you didn't suddenly become too good for that just because you can kill primals without risk of being tempered.
    Being humble doesn't mean that you have to allow people to take advantage of your generous nature. Because that's what the npcs are doing. Why can't Tataru pick up her own clothes, or ask ANYONE else to do it. You as the WoL have more on your plate than most other people in the world, but npcs have no qualms piling on more menial tasks cuz apparently your time is worth less than theirs.

    As an example, I would ask Superman to move a giant boulder that was threatening to damage my home, or I'd even ask him to help me out with doing a task for a mutual friend, as it would be nice coming to both of us. I would not ask Superman to go pick up my dry cleaning. Especially if I'm not doing anything else, and there are many others that could do it,but I know he'll just suck it up and do it, even if he doesn't want to.

    Superman has better things he could be doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omskahn View Post
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    End of the day, the WoL is an adventurer. The lore makes adventurers out to be the type who will do about anything for money, and hold little loyalty to much anything. They're helpful but effectively sellswords. To the normal person you're an adventurer, to those in the know you're the WoL.

    And as for Tataru, well you're bigger than her, stronger than her,have better connections in some means than her, you could pick up stuff a LOT faster than her.

    ...Unless you're on Dialup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vartio View Post
    End of the day, the WoL is an adventurer. The lore makes adventurers out to be the type who will do about anything for money, and hold little loyalty to much anything. They're helpful but effectively sellswords. To the normal person you're an adventurer, to those in the know you're the WoL.

    And as for Tataru, well you're bigger than her, stronger than her,have better connections in some means than her, you could pick up stuff a LOT faster than her.

    ...Unless you're on Dialup.
    WoL is not a sellsword. Not as far as I'm concerned, anyway.
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    I wouldn't call it abuse, techinally they are friends, or at least coworkers. Perhaps its more like we overwork ourselves, and they need to invent chores to keep us busy/around for the next time something bad happens.

    (That said, im not the biggest fan of the Scions either...)

    A lot of legwork to get around things is handled by your compatriots. Do i have the time to look into magitek technobabble to get through said shield barring my way? No, but i know someone who does, and i just happen to be borrowing his airship to get there, which would likely normally cost an arm and a leg to do.

    This isn't a rare occurance for soldiers and fighters, for their vaunted ability to kill things, to be bogged down or even thwarted by more mundane concerns.

    Does this mean we aren't the chosen one? That our own value is a lie? No, we've certainly done enough, even with the help, to be considered legendary. Primal killing used to take whole armies, or technology many years away. Imagine G.I Joe, or Chuck Norris's Karate Kommandos actually being a thing in real life winning us the War on Terror and squashing terror cells before they phone in the apocalyse, and that's kinda what us and our connections are doing in Eorzea.

    And even outside of primal killing, our martial skills are damn impressive. Some seasons adventurers get their careers ended by fighting morbols, while we take cleaves from swords than can dice a horse, punches from rock monsters, the most skilled military combatants, magical explosions from the latest pieces of Allagan cookingware...you get the idea.

    The disconnect many make is that this makes us superman. I don't think it does. We appear to be, but --im not sure i can explain it that well, maybe I neither see it nor want to see it.

    Our characters are not invincible, truly fighting in these situations and can falter. The closest i can come up with is that batman villain with the ability to rewind and replay stuff till he gets it right, but i don't think our deaths are canon. Im honestly not sure what it truly makes all of our characters. Which, as long as Kallera as more person than puppet, im okay with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vartio View Post
    End of the day, the WoL is an adventurer. The lore makes adventurers out to be the type who will do about anything for money, and hold little loyalty to much anything. They're helpful but effectively sellswords. To the normal person you're an adventurer, to those in the know you're the WoL.
    Except you are not the average adventurer. Not by a long shot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vartio View Post
    And as for Tataru, well you're bigger than her, stronger than her,have better connections in some means than her, you could pick up stuff a LOT faster than her.
    So could literally any other adventurer or scion. No one else is as busy or as relied upon as you, how about spreading the effort around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omskahn View Post
    Except you are not the average adventurer. Not by a long shot.



    So could literally any other adventurer or scion. No one else is as busy or as relied upon as you, how about spreading the effort around?
    Part 1: Maybe not, still an adventurer.

    Part 2: The only other confirmed living Scion is KO'd thenext room over. Alphinaud's weaker than you in every way.
    And Other adventurers? Would you trust someone who's a random sellsword with a coat made of Chimeric flesh (which is supposedly hyper rare based on the storyline) and a very, very specially crafted wand that together probably costed millions upon millions of gil conventionally over a friend?

    Part 2.5 (AKA edit): And I'd trust my expensive/rare stuff with the strongest man in the land over whimpy Alphinaud anyday.
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