If you can't provide instanced housing, what about...

[Shneibel]

Not everyone is a crafter (scrips). When I was last playing, I never managed to get more than 3 million gil, while houses on Balmung cost upwards of... well, stupid amounts of gil. And, why should simple access to housing cost an arm and a leg anyway? Far better systems make the access free and the customization cost gold.

then you done something wrong, ever since 3.0 and before all my DoH and DoL are lvl 60, I already generate 5kk and I make money casual ._.

[Nyalia]

I've made ~60 million from desynth and ~20 million from retainer ventures (mostly minions). I've probably made as much from crafting and gathering as I've spent on crafting and gathering gear/melds. I'm not saying crafting isn't profitable, I'm saying I haven't really bothered making money from it because there are far more lucrative means at my disposal. Money is easy to come by in this game if you want to make money. Money isn't the issue.

People can do something about money. No one can do anything to buy an item that simply doesn't exist. People are having to spend 5x the price of a house to bribe someone into relinquish their unused or underused land so they can buy it. That's not okay. No one should have to do that just to get a small house.

Thankfully, this will be alleviated when the housing decay system is implemented soon as mentioned in the Live Letter, and hopefully more wards will be added then too.

[Shneibel]

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call "bribe" is a bit.... , it is a player sell & buy house self invention system, because we don't have that system yet, but in the recent live letter, yoshi mention the decay system like you said, and he "move" system which hopefully to be move house between city to city and hopefully a sell & buy house system. The player system is not every good

[Naunet]

then you done something wrong, ever since 3.0 and before all my DoH and DoL are lvl 60, I already generate 5kk and I make money casual ._.

I don't have a level 60. :P

[Nyalia]

call "bribe" is a bit.... , it is a player sell & buy house self invention system, because we don't have that system yet, but in the recent live letter, yoshi mention the decay system like you said, and he "move" system which hopefully to be move house between city to city and hopefully a sell & buy house system. The player system is not every good

Sorry! I didn't mean it negatively. I meant it as, you have to pay someone to do something that does not technically benefit either of you in any mechanical way just to get around a broken system. And you shouldn't have to.

[Shneibel]

I don't have a level 60. :P

you dont need to have lvl 60, you can technically earn good money in HW atm by having jobs no higher than lvl 55, lvl 60 only expand the possibility

[Nyalia]

Almost everyone is doing endgame level 60 content right now, so the value of endgame level 60 sellable items is steadily dropping. Right now, last I checked, there's more money to be made in earlier content. On my server, Demon Brick minions spiked to over 100k, boarskin maps were selling for over 60k (I think dragonskin are around 100k), Fat Cats are more then Gestahls, and so on and so on. Not to mention, if run duties unsynced, I'm told certain items don't drop, such as Ex Primal elemental tokens (Inferno Horn, Vortex Feather, etc), and those are spiking in value since they're the only limiting factor for Bright Primal weapon glamours. The duties that drop the rare minions also start well before 60 - Sohm Al, Vault, Bray HM, etc.

And, if you do craft, the level 53 crafter/gatherer gear HQ sells extremely well. Not to mention old AF1 crafter/gatherer gear - that has always sold well and will always sell well. It's great for those DoL bots, after all. Exploit them like they exploit us!

If you gather, go for annoying or time-locked pre-60 items that are heavily needed like Titanium Ore, Gold Ore, Darksteel Ore, and so on.


The money's there. The houses aren't.

[Shneibel]

The money's there. The houses aren't.

they are working on it as they said, even if you complain any more, it will not make it any faster. A lot of ppl complain about housing and come with their idea (and they forget left & right some detail of the current system). Take a seat back and give it a bit time, they already said they are working on it, and how they will work with an ETA.

[Naunet]

you dont need to have lvl 60, you can technically earn good money in HW atm by having jobs no higher than lvl 55, lvl 60 only expand the possibility

I've got a character on Balmung who is 50. I took a break starting ~August of last year however, which is the point I had 3 million gil. Currently my character is level 30 though, as I rerolled on a new server. :P

they are working on it as they said, even if you complain any more, it will not make it any faster. A lot of ppl complain about housing and come with their idea (and they forget left & right some detail of the current system). Take a seat back and give it a bit time, they already said they are working on it, and how they will work with an ETA.

They're "working on it" amounts to "free up housing plots of inactive accounts and MAYBE add some more wards". That is not a solution. At all.

[Nadirah]

Even freeing up plots, there's folks planning on buying a few or more on alts to resell. That crap needs to stop.