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    I've made ~60 million from desynth and ~20 million from retainer ventures (mostly minions). I've probably made as much from crafting and gathering as I've spent on crafting and gathering gear/melds. I'm not saying crafting isn't profitable, I'm saying I haven't really bothered making money from it because there are far more lucrative means at my disposal. Money is easy to come by in this game if you want to make money. Money isn't the issue.

    People can do something about money. No one can do anything to buy an item that simply doesn't exist. People are having to spend 5x the price of a house to bribe someone into relinquish their unused or underused land so they can buy it. That's not okay. No one should have to do that just to get a small house.

    Thankfully, this will be alleviated when the housing decay system is implemented soon as mentioned in the Live Letter, and hopefully more wards will be added then too.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
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    call "bribe" is a bit.... , it is a player sell & buy house self invention system, because we don't have that system yet, but in the recent live letter, yoshi mention the decay system like you said, and he "move" system which hopefully to be move house between city to city and hopefully a sell & buy house system. The player system is not every good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    call "bribe" is a bit.... , it is a player sell & buy house self invention system, because we don't have that system yet, but in the recent live letter, yoshi mention the decay system like you said, and he "move" system which hopefully to be move house between city to city and hopefully a sell & buy house system. The player system is not every good
    Sorry! I didn't mean it negatively. I meant it as, you have to pay someone to do something that does not technically benefit either of you in any mechanical way just to get around a broken system. And you shouldn't have to.
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    (The links below are sadly outdated. I hope to get around to updating things at some point.)
    Desynthesis Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivdesynth

    Airship Guide: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipguide (\v/) Airship Quick Reference: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipqr
    Airship Logsheet: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshiplog (/|\) Airship Builder Tool: http://tinyurl.com/ffxivairshipbuilder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I don't have a level 60. :P
    you dont need to have lvl 60, you can technically earn good money in HW atm by having jobs no higher than lvl 55, lvl 60 only expand the possibility
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    you dont need to have lvl 60, you can technically earn good money in HW atm by having jobs no higher than lvl 55, lvl 60 only expand the possibility
    I've got a character on Balmung who is 50. I took a break starting ~August of last year however, which is the point I had 3 million gil. Currently my character is level 30 though, as I rerolled on a new server. :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    they are working on it as they said, even if you complain any more, it will not make it any faster. A lot of ppl complain about housing and come with their idea (and they forget left & right some detail of the current system). Take a seat back and give it a bit time, they already said they are working on it, and how they will work with an ETA.
    They're "working on it" amounts to "free up housing plots of inactive accounts and MAYBE add some more wards". That is not a solution. At all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    They're "working on it" amounts to "free up housing plots of inactive accounts and MAYBE add some more wards". That is not a solution. At all.
    give it time, I had explained about the current housing system in other thread, therefore I will not repeat it again in this one. All I can say to you is give it time, the current housing system work and they are trying to improve it, upgrade the quality of life before add more.

    Begin from here
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    Last edited by Shneibel; 08-20-2015 at 05:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    give it time, I had explained about the current housing system in other thread, therefore I will not repeat it again in this one. All I can say to you is give it time, the current housing system work and they are trying to improve it, upgrade the quality of life before add more.

    Begin from here
    It's actually far easier to do individually instanced housing because you don't need to have every single instance running simultaneously forever like you do with the wards. I know perfectly well how the current housing system works, and I'm more than familiar with SE's excuses. Their plans will not solve the fundamental flaws in their system.
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