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  1. #71
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    I support the idea, and to further cater to my Allagan fetish, make it a Training Node! Someone had the idea of having it execute low damage aoes to simulate having to move for mechanics and that's good too.

    All doomsaying aside, a parsing dummy is not a bad idea at all IF used responsibly, much like the other tools we already have that CAN be misused (vote kick, lootmaster, etc.), but would not by a mature adult player.
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  2. #72
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    A parsing dummy is the best alternative to an actual parser that I can think of. It's there for your parsing pleasure yet it's not looming over everyone's head in instances like a diarrhetic bird. It's also completely optional, you don't even have to give it a glance if you don't want to. Hopefully it's inclusion will be enough for the jerks to do their flexing and posing and leave the rest of us to enjoy the game in peace. Doubtful, I know, but it's a hope.
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  3. #73
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    If they do make a parsing dummy, I have one request:

    Make it a Moogle dummy. It will feel so good!

    In all seriousness though, as a PS4 user, if this is for real it would be great.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    Early WoW didn't have DD checks. Funny thing is that game took off like a rocket. WoW right now has DD checks and isn't doing all that well. Not that the correlation implies anything other than DD checks are irrelevant to the game being enjoyable.
    How early are we taklking about here, because DPS checks were already in vanilla WoW. The earliest one I can think of was Vaelastrazs in Blackwing Lair and many of the bosses in Naxxramas had either hard or soft enrages. I wouldn't be surprised if every boss had one after The Burning Crusade hit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Yeah... exploiting the game is fine as long as you can get away with it. I see. That is standard attitude in MMOs these days. However I always report people who say or parse logs at all. :'3
    Are you the same guy who said that datamaning patches is what is allowing botting? Because your parser comparisons are about as good as that.
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    Yoshi-P is doing his best and is patching Endwalker. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    not as effectively
    Well, if you're an idiot then yeah, you may need a dummy that's smarter than you to tell you what's happening.

    But for those of us with functional eyes and functional brains that can process the images those eyes receive, yeah, we don't need a parser to know if we're doing things correctly.
    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    You do realize the info is provided by the game, right?
    Parsers just put the information in a more readable format.
    That's as maybe, but they're still third party software that's still against the ToS. And here's hoping they stay that way.
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    Last edited by Eekiki; 08-19-2015 at 09:25 PM.

  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Well, if you're an idiot then yeah, you may need a dummy that's smarter than you to tell you what's happening.

    But for those of us with functional eyes and functional brains that can process the images those eyes receive, yeah, we don't need a parser to know if we're doing things correct.
    The thing is , you may THINK you doing it right but how are you certain for sure? Someone else might be doing the exact same thing as you but somehow they are pulling a much higher dps than you?

    A clear example , There's a few videos in YouTube "teaching you" their rotations . And if you look in the comments section there's ALWAYS someone telling you how can you improve or do better. And it's not only 1 person is a lot of putting their input and advice.

    That's when a parsing dummy comes in , if you can actually see the >damage< you might come up with something extra or adding extras to your rotations to increase your overall performance.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Well, if you're an idiot then yeah, you may need a dummy that's smarter than you to tell you what's happening.

    But for those of us with functional eyes and functional brains that can process the images those eyes receive, yeah, we don't need a parser to know if we're doing things correctly.
    its always funny to me how the anti-parser crowd plays the "toxic elitist community" card but is always the first to spew condescending stuff like this lol
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  8. #78
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    These threads about parsers are so dangerous, lol. Someone always gets banned for accidentaly admitting using one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Honestly, if this is SE's response for a parser, then we can expect this game to get a lot more toxic. I'm not sure if I'll want to play that game.
    It's literally only on training dummies. Training dummies exist for the sole purpose of practicing, and having it show your damage dealt only accentuates that idea. Regardless of them doing this or not, anyone who's serious in this game will just go to 3rd party programs to achieve the same thing. This just gives console players the means to evaluate themselves.
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    Patch update on Friday night! Hopefully we might get some info!

    The date has been set for the twenty-fourth installment of the Letter from the Producer LIVE! Scheduled to be held during the 14-hour anniversary broadcast, this will be the first half of a two-part special previewing what's to come in patch 3.1. Don't miss this chance to get the latest information out of Eorzea!
    Date & Time
    Friday, August 21, 2015 from 9:30 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. (PDT)

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    Yoshi-P will answer questions taken from the official forum while sharing details of the upcoming patch.
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