Adding Legacy Tattoo to Mog Station

[Tsuga]

magic

You deserve a medal.

[ApolloGenX]

I wonder if people would be so rigid and against relaxing a little bit about this if he was here demanding legacy characters be shipped back to legacy servers and never allowed to leave?

How about that?

No tattoos for late comers, legacy players on legacy servers only, no cross server chat. Everyone can just mix with "their own" and be happy. Fixed. Just like at launch.

I am sure the tattoo is worth it- it's not about just showing it off to players who can't have it.... so I am sure no one will mind.

Let's all be unreasonable together! (Well at the same time, but on our allotted and segregated servers)

[DreameR7g]

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Logical Fallacy. This promotes player bias and an official schism between legacy and 2.0+ players. The legacy players did not and are not preventing anyone else from capitalizing on the opportunity. The opportunity simply no longer exists.

And those who say "Yeah but they can bring it back!" Uh no. They can't. They can make a similar event but it won't be *THAT* event. It's impossible to re-capture that magic because of one critical detail: 1.0 is no longer.

Sorry bro, future players missed out. Get over it.

Edit: The only players being unreasonable at the moment are those who want a special and historic event to be brought back simply because they want it. Selfish.

[Fenwick]

I am sure the tattoo is worth it- it's not about just showing it off to players who can't have it.... so I am sure no one will mind.

If you seriously dislike/resent a person after seeing something that they have, that you don't. It doesn't make them a bad person, it makes you a bad person. I'm not really sure where you are trying to go with your post?

Edit: Are you trying to say that if everyone can't have it, they should be segregated to another server so that you don't have to look at what they have? Because that's pretty ridiculous if so.

[rainichan]

I roleplay. I'm on Balmung. What you're failing to understand about rp in general is the fact that some of it? Is based on


As for you keeping on insisting that we had to log on for us to get the tattoo? NO. You would be incorrect. Once the final data save went through, any character that had been made in 1.0 got carried over to 2.0. When Beta 3 (I think it was 3) happened, my 1.0 data got placed on the live servers, and when open beta hit, I was able to change my character using the new character creation. The only difference from my creating characters now is that their data was not brought over from 1.0 and I had to pick an actual DoW/DoM class to start off with instead of the original Alchemist my character was. Anyone who had made a character in 1.0, even if they decided to not come back to 2.0 in the long run, were eligible to make the legacy character with the tattoo stating that they had been made in 1.0.

I have the original game. I made a character. I may not have played long enough for getting the lowered sub, the chocobo, or my name in the credits. But I still supported the new mmo by buying a copy, installing it, and playing it. You said earlier that you didn't know about it or that SE made mmos. That still does not entitle you to something.

As far as the roleplay thing is concerned, all it takes it "I use a glamour to cover it up because sometimes it attracts the wrong kind of attention," it's actually there and whoever you're currently rping with will have to go back and use their imagination to see its actually there even though it's not. If/when they give you the option for other tattoos in that spot - because it sure as heck isn't going to be the pineapple 1.0 player tattoo - you can use said imagination for it to be the pineapple. That's the beauty of roleplaying. There are some things that limit how you do things, and while yes, having something visible helps but that does not inhibit the use of "My character has the tattoo as well but because I didn't play 1.0/make a character in that time, my character doesn't have it." There are people who do that with no issues. You're going to have to as well until they give us shoulder/neck tattoos for those who don't have the mark of the pineapple. You are not entitled to it just because some people have it and it's in server space, just how I am not entitled to a Dalamud Horn/Original Goobbue mount/Legacy Chocobo because I didn't play 1.0 long enough. I may want them, but I have come to terms with the fact that I will not have them.

[ApolloGenX]

If you seriously dislike/resent a person after seeing something that they have, that you don't. It doesn't make them a bad person, it makes you a bad person. I'm not really sure where you are trying to go with your post?

Edit: Are you trying to say that if everyone can't have it, they should be segregated to another server so that you don't have to look at what they have? Because that's pretty ridiculous if so.

I am saying that I have a character with the tattoo- and the arguments against others having it that have been brought up have been either:

1. Based on a misunderstanding of what it took to get it -or-
2. Been feeble special snowflake arguments

How about this- The character that I play doesn't have the tattoo because I didn't want to play on a legacy server (where he resides)- now legacy players can get onto other servers- boohoo, that shouldn't be allowed. We were told that legacy players would be on their own servers at launch and then they let them run off to other servers... they lied!

My issue is that SE has changed position on MANY things, and I have yet to see a compelling reason why this isn't something that can be shared... especially since it wasn't part of the legacy deal you had to qualify for to get the legacy account. It's the only tattoo in the game for chars, and new players can't get tattoos. That is really awful.

At least they should make a whole set of tattoos for players - and then they could choose which one/s they want.

I don't think it would be a big deal if it wasn't a whole type of customization that new players can't get... it isn't just one option out of many, like if it was a hair style instead of a tattoo.

[rainichan]

At least they should make a whole set of tattoos for players - and then they could choose which one/s they want.

I don't think it would be a big deal if it wasn't a whole type of customization that new players can't get... it isn't just one option out of many, like if it was a hair style instead of a tattoo.

Some NPC hairstyles are NPC locked. Generally, SE gives us something similar. I have NO ISSUE with other styled tattoos available on a characters shoulder blades. It's something that can be done, I'd be cool with that for my other characters because it's more customization. Same with more battle scars or whatnot on other places on a body beyond the face. I'd love that! But treat the 1.0 brand as something NPC locked that you get something similar for.

[Magis]

I am saying that I have a character with the tattoo- and the arguments against others having it that have been brought up have been either:
2. Been feeble special snowflake arguments

Yes, they are special snowflakes. They played 1.0 and got their tattoo. Some are even specialler snowflakes and got legacy status. This isn't a bad thing and puts value and MEANING to items (and when it comes to 1.0, there is a huge meaning... those people who stuck through a failing game). People say that items don't have any meaning anymore, and it's no surprise when something is out of someones grasp (be it a limited event or hard content) they QQ to the devs to give it to them.

Those who want it so badly should have played 1.0.

[ApolloGenX]

Some NPC hairstyles are NPC locked. Generally, SE gives us something similar. I have NO ISSUE with other styled tattoos available on a characters shoulder blades. It's something that can be done, I'd be cool with that for my other characters because it's more customization. Same with more battle scars or whatnot on other places on a body beyond the face. I'd love that! But treat the 1.0 brand as something NPC locked that you get something similar for.

Well, frankly- even the char I have with the tattoo- I would like the option to change it to something else.. because I also happen to think the 1.0 looks completely stupid. Like something an idiot got while they were drunk.

Yes, they are special snowflakes. They played 1.0 and got their tattoo. Some are even specialler snowflakes and got legacy status. This isn't a bad thing and puts value and MEANING to items (and when it comes to 1.0, there is a huge meaning... those people who stuck through a failing game). People say that items don't have any meaning anymore, and it's no surprise when something is out of someones grasp (be it a limited event or hard content) they QQ to the devs to give it to them.

Those who want it so badly should have played 1.0.

The above comment just demonstrates #1.

My friend's character has the stupid thing and he didn't pay a cent in subscription and hated 1.0. I had to beg him to give 2.0 a chance. Whole lot of MEANING there- it means he bought a garbage game. It's a symbol of being ripped off to some people, you know and not a GOOD reminder.

[Fenwick]

I am saying that I have a character with the tattoo- and the arguments against others having it that have been brought up have been either:

1. Based on a misunderstanding of what it took to get it -or-
2. Been feeble special snowflake arguments

How about this- The character that I play doesn't have the tattoo because I didn't want to play on a legacy server (where he resides)- now legacy players can get onto other servers- boohoo, that shouldn't be allowed. We were told that legacy players would be on their own servers at launch and then they let them run off to other servers... they lied!

They didn't lie actually, it was made known that server locks were temporary from the start. As for the rest of it, that's merely a perception issue, time to accept that what others consider relevant might be different from what you consider relevant and this doesn't make them special snowflakes.

Just because you don't find something compelling, doesn't mean it's invalid or wrong.

Explains things.

This person explains things pretty coherently, especially further down the post where Yoshi himself details exactly what the marking is supposed to accomplish. It is accomplishing what it was originally intended for. You're too caught up in demonizing people defending this point, instead of making a coherent argument yourself.