Adding Legacy Tattoo to Mog Station

[ApolloGenX]

I wonder if people would be so rigid and against relaxing a little bit about this if he was here demanding legacy characters be shipped back to legacy servers and never allowed to leave?

How about that?

No tattoos for late comers, legacy players on legacy servers only, no cross server chat. Everyone can just mix with "their own" and be happy. Fixed. Just like at launch.

I am sure the tattoo is worth it- it's not about just showing it off to players who can't have it.... so I am sure no one will mind.

Let's all be unreasonable together! (Well at the same time, but on our allotted and segregated servers)

[DreameR7g]

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Logical Fallacy. This promotes player bias and an official schism between legacy and 2.0+ players. The legacy players did not and are not preventing anyone else from capitalizing on the opportunity. The opportunity simply no longer exists.

And those who say "Yeah but they can bring it back!" Uh no. They can't. They can make a similar event but it won't be *THAT* event. It's impossible to re-capture that magic because of one critical detail: 1.0 is no longer.

Sorry bro, future players missed out. Get over it.

Edit: The only players being unreasonable at the moment are those who want a special and historic event to be brought back simply because they want it. Selfish.

[Fenwick]

I am sure the tattoo is worth it- it's not about just showing it off to players who can't have it.... so I am sure no one will mind.

If you seriously dislike/resent a person after seeing something that they have, that you don't. It doesn't make them a bad person, it makes you a bad person. I'm not really sure where you are trying to go with your post?

Edit: Are you trying to say that if everyone can't have it, they should be segregated to another server so that you don't have to look at what they have? Because that's pretty ridiculous if so.

[ApolloGenX]

If you seriously dislike/resent a person after seeing something that they have, that you don't. It doesn't make them a bad person, it makes you a bad person. I'm not really sure where you are trying to go with your post?

Edit: Are you trying to say that if everyone can't have it, they should be segregated to another server so that you don't have to look at what they have? Because that's pretty ridiculous if so.

I am saying that I have a character with the tattoo- and the arguments against others having it that have been brought up have been either:

1. Based on a misunderstanding of what it took to get it -or-
2. Been feeble special snowflake arguments

How about this- The character that I play doesn't have the tattoo because I didn't want to play on a legacy server (where he resides)- now legacy players can get onto other servers- boohoo, that shouldn't be allowed. We were told that legacy players would be on their own servers at launch and then they let them run off to other servers... they lied!

My issue is that SE has changed position on MANY things, and I have yet to see a compelling reason why this isn't something that can be shared... especially since it wasn't part of the legacy deal you had to qualify for to get the legacy account. It's the only tattoo in the game for chars, and new players can't get tattoos. That is really awful.

At least they should make a whole set of tattoos for players - and then they could choose which one/s they want.

I don't think it would be a big deal if it wasn't a whole type of customization that new players can't get... it isn't just one option out of many, like if it was a hair style instead of a tattoo.

[rainichan]

At least they should make a whole set of tattoos for players - and then they could choose which one/s they want.

I don't think it would be a big deal if it wasn't a whole type of customization that new players can't get... it isn't just one option out of many, like if it was a hair style instead of a tattoo.

Some NPC hairstyles are NPC locked. Generally, SE gives us something similar. I have NO ISSUE with other styled tattoos available on a characters shoulder blades. It's something that can be done, I'd be cool with that for my other characters because it's more customization. Same with more battle scars or whatnot on other places on a body beyond the face. I'd love that! But treat the 1.0 brand as something NPC locked that you get something similar for.

[ApolloGenX]

Some NPC hairstyles are NPC locked. Generally, SE gives us something similar. I have NO ISSUE with other styled tattoos available on a characters shoulder blades. It's something that can be done, I'd be cool with that for my other characters because it's more customization. Same with more battle scars or whatnot on other places on a body beyond the face. I'd love that! But treat the 1.0 brand as something NPC locked that you get something similar for.

Well, frankly- even the char I have with the tattoo- I would like the option to change it to something else.. because I also happen to think the 1.0 looks completely stupid. Like something an idiot got while they were drunk.

Yes, they are special snowflakes. They played 1.0 and got their tattoo. Some are even specialler snowflakes and got legacy status. This isn't a bad thing and puts value and MEANING to items (and when it comes to 1.0, there is a huge meaning... those people who stuck through a failing game). People say that items don't have any meaning anymore, and it's no surprise when something is out of someones grasp (be it a limited event or hard content) they QQ to the devs to give it to them.

Those who want it so badly should have played 1.0.

The above comment just demonstrates #1.

My friend's character has the stupid thing and he didn't pay a cent in subscription and hated 1.0. I had to beg him to give 2.0 a chance. Whole lot of MEANING there- it means he bought a garbage game. It's a symbol of being ripped off to some people, you know and not a GOOD reminder.

[Magis]

Well, frankly- even the char I have with the tattoo- I would like the option to change it to something else.. because I also happen to think the 1.0 looks completely stupid. Like something an idiot got while they were drunk.



The above comment just demonstrates #1.

My friend's character has the stupid thing and he didn't pay a cent in subscription and hated 1.0. I had to beg him to give 2.0 a chance. Whole lot of MEANING there- it means he bought a garbage game. It's a symbol of being ripped off to some people, you know and not a GOOD reminder.

Did I say you had to beat anything? You just had to play the game. Guess what, people didn't, people didn't even give it a chance, so they didn't get a tattoo. Tough luck.

[rainichan]

Well, frankly- even the char I have with the tattoo- I would like the option to change it to something else.. because I also happen to think the 1.0 looks completely stupid. Like something an idiot got while they were drunk.

And that's fine. Not saying you shouldn't be able to change it if you don't like it. I am not against that. As I have said already, there are plenty of 1.0-locked things I would like to have but I can't. It was the same way when I played WoW for a few years, it was also the same for everyone playing WoW at the time when ONE person could get the title of Scarab Lord during the Ahn'Qiraj stuff. There are going to be things that are going to be out of some players reach, and eventually you just have to learn to shrug it off and move on. They will do the same for the 2.0 players at some point too.

[Magis]

I am saying that I have a character with the tattoo- and the arguments against others having it that have been brought up have been either:
2. Been feeble special snowflake arguments

Yes, they are special snowflakes. They played 1.0 and got their tattoo. Some are even specialler snowflakes and got legacy status. This isn't a bad thing and puts value and MEANING to items (and when it comes to 1.0, there is a huge meaning... those people who stuck through a failing game). People say that items don't have any meaning anymore, and it's no surprise when something is out of someones grasp (be it a limited event or hard content) they QQ to the devs to give it to them.

Those who want it so badly should have played 1.0.

[Fenwick]

I am saying that I have a character with the tattoo- and the arguments against others having it that have been brought up have been either:

1. Based on a misunderstanding of what it took to get it -or-
2. Been feeble special snowflake arguments

How about this- The character that I play doesn't have the tattoo because I didn't want to play on a legacy server (where he resides)- now legacy players can get onto other servers- boohoo, that shouldn't be allowed. We were told that legacy players would be on their own servers at launch and then they let them run off to other servers... they lied!

They didn't lie actually, it was made known that server locks were temporary from the start. As for the rest of it, that's merely a perception issue, time to accept that what others consider relevant might be different from what you consider relevant and this doesn't make them special snowflakes.

Just because you don't find something compelling, doesn't mean it's invalid or wrong.

Explains things.

This person explains things pretty coherently, especially further down the post where Yoshi himself details exactly what the marking is supposed to accomplish. It is accomplishing what it was originally intended for. You're too caught up in demonizing people defending this point, instead of making a coherent argument yourself.