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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Seifa View Post
    which is another bullshit that Yoshida told us when he said his team wasn't factoring healers' damage when tuning content.
    Well, actually, when the question was asked (Before HW launch), Yoshida specifically used the past tense.
    So it's not really a lie. Before, HW, they weren't factoring healer's or tank's damage.

    It could explain why we feel the DPS check much more demanding now, since lots of healers and tanks actually did decent damage when it's wasn't expected in past content.
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Well, actually, when the question was asked (Before HW launch), Yoshida specifically used the past tense.
    So it's not really a lie. Before, HW, they weren't factoring healer's or tank's damage.

    It could explain why we feel the DPS check much more demanding now, since lots of healers and tanks actually did decent damage when it's wasn't expected in past content.
    It's not even that. Alex Savage is almost assuredly tuned assuming at least i190 (perhaps even higher) for AS1, and probably higher for each successive turn. The groups pushing to clear them at this point probably don't all have the item levels the content is designed for. Yoshi even addressed this in the interview to which you're referring--they know people use healer/tank DPS when they don't have the item levels the content is designed for, and they are okay with that.
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    Kaden Sun
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 60
    With better gear, Statics are now slowly letting Paladins back into their raid groups and some are even experimenting with them in A4 Savage after hitting that wall. Monks and Astrologians not so much.

    Statics have no reason to take a monk into A1S-A3S over a Dragoon or a Ninja. Dragoons on average deal more overall damage with equal gear, has the piercing debuffs for your Bards or Machinist and and boost your raid's overall DPS with Battle Litany. Ninjas have their Trick Attacks and Slashing Debuff (if you're Warrior is main tanking) for themselves and all their tanks and other raid utility like enmity control. Dark Knights makes it so you know longer need a Monk for Dragon Kick anymore. Besides potentially being Top 3 DPS when played correctly, Monks don't really bring anything special to the raid group. No one even gives an iota to Mantra. It's not like the Monk is AST bad, it's why take that Job when you have two others Jobs that fulfills the same role but does a lot more?
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