Is anyone else disappointed by the lack of Long Term Goals?

[Kazama]

Stopped reading.

Toodles, didn't want the anti-everythingbutffxiv crowd in this discussion.

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Just... yes.

But absolutely. 1.0 actually had that feel of vastness XI had. Sure, in the beginning it was bland and boring. What I think people fail to understand is that Yoshida's team likely got a massive budget and creative license to remake what Tanaka had started. 1.0 was handled as an afterthought rather than given the attention it needed as a serialized title, the same as XI was. They used the Crystal Tools engine that was designed for FFXIII and didn't get the full weight of the company behind them. Maybe that is Tanaka's fault for not pressing the issue but without having failed and publicly ridiculed, Yoshida's dev team would probably have faced the same problems.

If there is one thing Japanese culture does not like it is public humiliation personal or professional and it took getting to that point for the company to react. Sure, the original Devs had their own vision which was similar to XI but I don't think it would have failed if they had the same opportunity Yoshida has. After all, what most people hated and ultimately quit FFXI for was the slow auto attack combat and turn based UI design, not the game content. I still feel as though the XI stories were far superior to the more immature themes in XIV.

[hyko]

Horizontal progression items were great until you didn't have them and the other players did. God those accuracy items in FFXI made me feel so bad.

DPS1: TP 100%!
Me: TP 40%....
(a few attacks later)
DPS1: TP 200%!!!!1!!
Me: TP 75%..... T.T
DPS1: SCREW THIS I'M GOING SOLO WS!

Sometimes I really don't miss those days LOL

[Akiza]

Long term goals don't work well in today's mmo market because people complain about the time it takes to get gear. Look at red scripts people complain about how long it'll take to finish a crafter or gatherer. Horizontal Progression is a massive fail look at games like The Secret World a few players praise those types of games but most of the gaming community hate them. Black Desert and Blade & Soul will bomb hard in the west because most MMO's developed by western companies are being touted as MMO Ultra Lite.

[Felis]

Try to get a full set of lv 60 DoH AF
I think that is a goal that need a long time

[StrejdaTom]

When there will be no people who want everything immediately, then we can start talking about long term goals.
Relic quest was nerfed atleast 3 times for them and even after that some people were asking for nerf, this kinda made my long term goal a joke.

IMO they should have kept the 2.x relic completely unnerfed, because they are releasing new relic now anyways, which will replace it and it can be considered a nerf to the old relic too.
They shouldn't demotivate people so much by nerfing everything forum vocal community asks for.

[Greven]

They'll add longer term goals for sure.

Now you have to cap Eso/Scrips to get the fancy gear and work on Savage. It's not a thing you can do on a whim, can you?

Relics will make their debut, the 24raid too.. Just give them some time.

Meanwhile work on what we have now.

[FoxyAreku]

You know what happens when you achieve something that keeps you relevant for a long period of time?

Most people stop playing.

FFXI was unpopular for a lot of reasons. The less this game takes from it, the better.

[tka]

Ffxi was amazing in its prime, but I have a life now

No than you #timesink

I'm sorry but comments like this are really stupid. You do know when you played XI there were others that had "a life" and still played it? The only thing that's different now is you are the one "with a life" and the others have more free time.

[Bishop81]

One of the great things about FFXI was that you could work towards something for a year, get it, and use it for like 3 to 4 years without it becoming obsolete.
You felt like you accomplished something, and it was often something fairly unique.

Unfortunately the currently dominating MMO trend is "easy come, easy go" where you quickly get stuff and just as quick toss it away.

The only long term goal are the self created ones like building up your wardrobe - even that is running into problems due to lack of inventory space or a way to "compress" the space they take up.

This aspect of the genre is still in WoW's shadow.

[Daralii]

Difference from the FFXI titles and titles in this game is that FFXI ones where actually more meaningful than here. I see people with the Nidhogg Slayer title running around in FFXIV and I just 'meh'.

Well yeah, it's part of the MSQ. Unless they want to lock a huge number of people out of a large amount of content(they don't), it has to be fairly easy. It's titles from optional stuff that carry prestige.